Mike Neal had knee surgery, will be out "A considerable amount of time"

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Yes, I'm still surprised we let Jenkins go, considering what he got from the Eagles. I heard that they can cut him after this season and suffer no financial implications? If that's the case, his manageable salary would have been well worth it. I haven't spent enough time looking at the details of his deal, but it does seem like it would have been worth it. Although perhaps it may have affected the resigning of other players this season, but I still find that somewhat hard to believe. I think our pass rush will struggle all season, unless So'oto turns into a great player immediately. It will be rough to witness a QBs sitting comfortably in the pocket at times throughout the season. CM3 and Raji can only do so much. We better hope Neal can make it back in a month or so and be a factor, or a lot of pressure is going to be on our offense.

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#22

I don't believe in "injury prone". The sample size is far too small, and the potential confounding variables too many, to ever make such a claim.

On the other hand, I have to be mildly bemused by those who thought it just fine to not keep Cullen Jenkins because of *his* injury history, but remain largely silent on the continued injuries of his replacement who hasn't shown anything like what Cullen Jenkins had shown.

Originally Posted by: Wade

Cullen Jenkins was the one guy I wouldn't have minded Ted spending a chunk of cash on this past off-season. I heard many people voice their concerns about his injuries and age, but he was still able to contribute in games when he wasn't 100% healthy. Cullen seems to be getting better with age. He is a beast and I wish he was still a Packer. I hope Neal can get on the field this year and Wynn continues to play well.

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#23

From Packers.com this is what they mention.

2006: Turf Toe (9 games played)
2007: (all 13 games played)
2008: (all 12 games played)
2009: (all 12 games played)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Here is better summary from CBS NFL Draft Scout:

Neal rehabbed after knee surgery during his redshirt season and missed five games with a turf toe injury in 2006. In 2007 he began to make his presence felt by making 3.5 tackles for loss and two sacks as reserve in 13 games. When finally receiving the chance to start the past two seasons, he accumulated 68 tackles, 21.5 for loss and 11 sacks.

Neal's injury history prompted coach Joe Tiller to call Neal "a tease" during spring 2008 practices, but Neal's toughness won't be questioned by scouts, as the former top Indiana high school recruit played through a torn labrum the last three games of 2007 and fought constant double-teams as a senior. His inconsistent motor and use of his brute strength to disengage from blocks won't impress scouts, but his general athleticism will earn him a spot somewhere in the middle third of the draft.

NOTE....Rehabbed from knee surgery.....same knee maybe ?:-k

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#24

Originally Posted by: doddpower

Wish I had the link, but Cullen Jenkins took less to sign with the Eagles.

Edit, Packers turned down hometown discount, Cullen Jenkins expects to go or maybe not, lol. I swear I read somewhere that he was offered more money by the Packers and something was said about him turning it down because they waited too long to make an offer.

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#25

First of all, this happened in a NON-CONTACT drill.
Second of all, he himself SAID that there was nothing wrong with it at all.
Now he's having mf'ing surgery on it? wtf.
Dude's officially on my "dislike" list.
Note also that Mike McCarthy used the word "significant" when referring to the amount of time he could miss. That's MM's buzzword.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Yeah, what a dick. What kind of numb nut jackass goes and has a freak accident. Only real ballers get injured in contact drills. And, not too mention, what kind of monumental tool acts all "optimistic" after an injury? If I were him I'd have gone to medical school and gotten versed in orthopedic medicine before pursuing competitive football. That way there'd be no misdirection.

But seriously guys, Neal may never play another down. Physically he'll likely recover; but mentally? How can anyone come back from the shame of being added to Nerdmann's "dislike" list? For an answer to that we'll have to ask the other members of his list, namely "reason" and "sensibility."

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Originally Posted by: doddpower

The decision to let Jenkins go is certainly not looking good right now. It seems that the decision to move on without him was made during the season or immediately afterwards. I wonder if Ted would've played it differently if he'd known that Jenkins could eventually be signed for a reasonable price.

Still, I think the pass rush could be quite good even without Jenkins or Neal. It was pretty good late last season when Jenkins was hurt, and in game one against the Saints, the pass rush was decent against one of the best O-lines in the league. Wynn had an especially nice game.

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#27

something to note,

this puts Pickett and Raji as our 2 DTs in nickle.

I am reaaaly not a fan of seeing Pickett on the field in any passing situation8-[

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#28

I think it is premature to call him injury prone.

I just hope he can get healthy and stay that way. It worries me that he was injured in a non contact drill...I wonder if the surgery was NEEDED?

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#29

I wonder if the surgery was NEEDED?

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go.

Why would they do the surgery if it wasn't needed?

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#30

Why would they do the surgery if it wasn't needed?

Originally Posted by: Greg C.

Its the new thing, all the cool kids are doing it; recreational surgery.

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#31

Ted should look into Gerard Warren, who was cut by the Patriots.

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#32

Neal is Harrell 2.0 lol 🙂

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

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#33

Neal is Harrell 2.0 lol :)

Originally Posted by: dhazer

Agreed.

We need a legitimate replacement if one can be found.

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#34

Agreed.

We need a legitimate replacement if one can be found.

Originally Posted by: packer98

Last year the team suffered multiple injuries, a couple of them to players more important than Neal (Finley, Grant), but Ted stood pat, went with the young guys, and the team won the Super Bowl. So I don't expect him to bring in any veterans. However, if Neal doesn't recover this season, DE could be a big need in the next draft.

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#35

Ted Thompson did bring in a veteran last season to help a depleted DL, he brought in Howard Green. Maybe the Packers can strike up another good player? I wouldn't expect it anytime soon. As mentioned, let the young guys prove their worth, be it good or bad.

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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I thought about Howard Green. He was an unknown guy who was brought in as a backup rather than a replacement for an injured starter.

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#37

Bring back Harrell.

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#38

It's a good thing Wynn has been stepping up this year. This really discourages me.

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#39

Wynn played well the other night and I look to see Ted and McCarthy keeping their eyes on him to see if he can be relied on. I don't see Ted Thompson going out and getting anybody that we have probably even heard of, not really his style. Not that I would have heard of, anyway!

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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Have to agree with this. If Ted Thompson does go out and pick someone up it won’t be until another player goes down on the DL and the backups show that they can’t get it done. Wynn showed last week that he can get it done... so why bring in some other team’s cast off?

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