Did the 2011 Week 1 Packers Defense Suck?· Page 5

Pack93z
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13 years ago

Is it really that surprising that the teams with arguably the two best offenses in the league played a high scoring game?

Originally Posted by: Greg C.

Not at all.. and that they maximized the competitive advantages in place that favor the offenses over the defenses.

Not to mention the quality of the offensive minds in place on both sidelines from a coaching perspective.

Not shocking at all.

Kind of like Clifton struggling against speed based dynamic pass rushers on turf.. but it won't stop the thread following the game of that Clifton is done and sucks.. lol. Although in this case I think it speaks more to the coaches not scheming to provide adequate assistance to a player in that situation. But that is a different thread titled.. "[Insert Coaches Name]" sucks and should be fired. 😉

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Pack93z
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13 years ago

#42

But I have expressed my objections to the defense. The tackling was abysmal and they played way off the receivers, leaving the flat wide open on almost every play. In my opinion, that is a recipe for poor defensive play. They won in the end, which is the important thing; I am just concerned about a possible trend. You don't want to always have to score tons of points to win games. As I said before, though, I expected most defenses to perform poorly the first month or so. They will probably get it cleaned up, particularly if they can get Mike Neal back healthy.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

With you in particular Rourke.. I would single you out if it was your posts that I was directing the comments to.. I know you will accept it for what it is and more than likely will provide a retort of some sort with some substance involved.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

zombieslayer
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13 years ago

#43

FYI - I'm NOT looking the other way at our poor defensive play. I'm just saying that it's to be expected after the lockout and we'll be seeing it for the first 4 games or so this season for possibly all 32 teams.

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Greg C.
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13 years ago

#44

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

You'll have to explain this theory to me, because I've never heard it before. Why would the lockout hurt defenses more than offenses? Was anybody saying this before the season started, or are they basing the theory on one game? What's next? The theory that there will be more special teams TDs because each team had one in this game?

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Pack93z
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13 years ago

#45

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

I am not either.. criticism is healthy and good by nature. I do it often.. although I avoid using the word sucks if I can.. again pet peeve of mine personally.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Pack93z
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13 years ago

#46

That's funny, this is the exact opposite of what I've been hearing everywhere else. When there is a lack of preparation time, the defenses are supposed to be ahead of the offenses. That's what "they" say, anyway.

Originally Posted by: Greg C.

Agreed for the most part.. although with the complexity of some defensive schemes of today in place to minimize the rulebook advantage to the offense.. I can see some cohesive and communication issues that may need to be worked out.

But in general.. the offensive passing game is built on timing, consistent reads among multiple players and overall depth of the playbook putting the offenses on a longer timeline of install than the defenses.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

millertime
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13 years ago

#47

The problem with the Hawk call was that the ref who threw the flag was not in the best position to make the call.

From behind, it totally looked like Hawk level Sproles. But from the front, you could totally see it was a clean play. Justice/karma prevailed in the end.

zombieslayer
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13 years ago

#48

Originally Posted by: Greg C.

A hunch.

You can blindfold Joe Montana and he'd hit Jerry Rice right on the shoulder on an 8-yard slant that Rice will turn into 15 yards.

Can't do that with D. D has to react to what the O is doing (and sometimes attack the O). D to me seems to need more communication/playing time than O.

I could be wrong, but it seems logical to me.

Let's see how the rest of the NFL looks. The deciding factor would be whether Os struggle to score or if Ds struggle to stop Os from scoring, relative to last year.

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wpr
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13 years ago

#49

Other than the hideous tackling- wait- attempts at stripping the ball instead of tackling. And a few times when they failed to rush enough players to put pressure on Brees they did an adequate job.

I would rather see them shut NO down but that is too much to expect.

Zero2Cool
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13 years ago

#50

Originally Posted by: wpr

and most would be praising the Packers if they had knocked the ball out more than once rather than gripe about poor tackling.

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