2011 Starks v Grant: week 1· Page 5

Pack93z
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13 years ago

Who's better.. yada yada yada.. rabble rabble rabble..

They both provided spark and tough yards last night.. color me not interested in needing to prop one up over the other.

I would rather have both and Green to utilize during the game in situations and let the both provide the team with some much needed yards on the ground.

This is a hell of a lot better situation than our options last season.. lol.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Stevetarded
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13 years ago

#42

The only thing that really bothered me about Grant last night was that beautifully set up screen pass. Instead of cutting it straight upfield he angled like 4 or 5 yards outside toward the only defender that was even close.

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gbguy20
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13 years ago

#43

Not sure if this has been posted yet, didn't read through the entire thread. But I feel this may be the most telling stat regarding this topic, even if it is just one game.

Ryan Grant played 17 snaps.
James Starks played 47.

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Pack93z
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13 years ago

#44

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

Since we ran that ball 23 times with the backs and threw it 35 times.. Grant having a catch vs Starks not.. I would draw a conclusion in a single game vacuum set that MM and company think Starks is a better blocking back option at this point than Grant.

That is if you are going to try an draw a conclusion from a single game and game plan.

12 carries to 47 snaps verse 9 carries to 17 snaps would suggest that Grant is the preferred rushing back.. under the same subset.

Of course that would probably hold be inconclusive over the course of the season.. but..

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

zombieslayer
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13 years ago

#45

Too bad hitting a tapeworm with a hammer wouldn't actually kill it. :-"

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

Tapeworms also don't request cookies. They just bite your intestines when they don't like the food.

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gbguy20
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13 years ago

#46

tapeworms scare me

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Nonstopdrivel
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13 years ago

#47

You have personal experience with them, I take it?[puke]

Zero2Cool
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13 years ago

#48

Tapeworms also don't request cookies. They just bite your intestines when they don't like the food.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

is this somehow suggesting tapeworms are better than me? hey, i was offered, i accepted!!

The game against the Saints ... I thought James Starks looked more like a professional running back than Ryan Grant. Starks looked like he belonged and Grant looked like he fighting to achieve legitimacy.

Greg C.
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13 years ago

#49

I really hate the "vs." in this thread title.

They both looked good, but Starks looked better running the ball. He's just so strong.

Nerdmann is convinced that Ryan Grant is bad in pass protection because he hasn't been awarded the third down RB job, but here's the real reason he hasn't won the third down RB job: He is the #1 RB. To move to third down RB would be a demotion for him. He is pretty good in pass protection--always has been. And he looks way better at it than Starks at this point.

However, Starks is younger and has more upside and is in the process of passing Grant up right now as an overall RB, if he hasn't done it already. It would be great to have both of them healthy all season for a nice 1-2 punch.

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Pack93z
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13 years ago

#50

I said this before you did. 😝

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

You actually think I read your posts. 😝 😂

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