2011 Starks v Grant: week 1· Page 7

bozz_2006
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13 years ago

#61

What the fuck is this thread?

Originally Posted by: TwinkieGorilla

Drunk off the big win.

Dexter_Sinister
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13 years ago

#62

The more Starks screws up in protection, the less he will be asked to do it.

It doesn't matter who gets how many carries, if the system works, it will be back next year. If Grant and Starks can produce 100 yards together every game, I would call it successful.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

TwinkieGorilla
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13 years ago

#63

I may be wrong here but it seemed to me that Starks got all the carries when the game was on the line. Grant was running 1st, 2nd and late 4th quarter.

Originally Posted by: djcubez

I noticed the same thing and was pretty surprised! I can't say he wasn't the better/more productive back of the night either.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:

Greg C.
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13 years ago

#64

So they aren't putting the best players on the field in passing situations because they are worried about Grant not having the #1 RB title.... yeah I really don't buy that.

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded

When Grant won the starting job in 2007, Brandon Jackson was the third down RB, and he was very good in that role. It was a good arrangement. I don't think it was done that way because Grant was deficient as a third down RB. He still got a ton of carries until he got injured last year. But I guess some fans think there must be something wrong with an RB unless he plays every single snap, except when they go with an empty backfield. At least when that RB is Ryan Grant.

It's not like they run the ball on every play when Grant is in the lineup. This is mainly a passing offense. Any player who starts at RB in Mike McCarthy's offense (or any offense nowadays, for that matter) has to have the ability to pass block and catch passes out of the backfield.

It's almost unbelievable to me how critical fans have been of Grant. Nobody's saying he's great. But he's good, and he plays hard. Now we have another guy in Starks who looks at least as good and probably even better. This is good. We should all be happy happy happy. But it looks like we'll be having these debates all season long.

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Pack93z
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13 years ago

#65

I am right with you Greg.. and the below is a product of Grant not being an elite back. Grant is a cost effective, solid NFL back that can hit the home run on occasion. He is not AP or CJ.. and somehow Starks or another may be.. so it is natural that we try and force the bird we have in the hand out.. similar to last preseason in the clamoring for Jackson.. a couple games the new bird didn't look so pretty.

It's almost unbelievable to me how critical fans have been of Grant. Nobody's saying he's great. But he's good, and he plays hard. Now we have another guy in Starks who looks at least as good and probably even better. This is good. We should all be happy happy happy. But it looks like we'll be having these debates all season long.

Originally Posted by: Greg C.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#66

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

Grant's solid, but I wouldn't necessarily say cost effective.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

macbob
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13 years ago

#67

I don't view it as a one-or-other. Starks and Grant are a nice 1-2 punch. Splitting the carries will help keep them fresh into/through the winter months. If one gets injured, I feel confident the other can carry the running load required in our offense. So I'm pretty happy with both of these guys.

I was happy with MM's playcalling during the game until the last 7 mins, when things got conservative and allowed NO to get within 1 yd of coming back from a 15 pt deficit. I would have preferred seeing the Pack go for 1 more score (at the minimum a FG) and make it a 3 score game. As NO demonstrated, that lead was just barely sufficient.

Dexter_Sinister
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13 years ago

#68

Originally Posted by: macbob

He did go for it. They mugged Finley all the way down the field so Rodgers had to dump it off to Kuhn for a 1 yard gain. That is actually what 🇲🇲 was yelling about after that dump off pass.

It did take some amazing throws to do that. Throws I doubt the majority of the NFL's QBs can manage. And it still wasn't enough.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

El3ment12
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13 years ago

#69

They are both really good running backs. I'm so exited to watch them the rest of the year.

nerdmann
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13 years ago

#70

They are both really good running backs. I'm so exited to watch them the rest of the year.

Originally Posted by: El3ment380

Do you think Green will start to get some of Grant's carries by the end of the year?

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

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