Yeah, you're so cool and above everything. Well (to quote Lebowski) that's just your opinion, man. Pointing out things like language/personal attacks should hardly qualify as whining.
Originally Posted by: evad04
Yes, it DOES qualify as whining when you also use the language/personal attacks and then you try to hide behind that claim and play the victim like you did. You shouldn't cry foul when you did the same shit. That's just weak.
If you were being a perfect angel and got attacked, then fine, complain about language and personal attacks if that's how you want to be. That didn't happen. You said yourself you were being hotheaded and sarcastic in response to a post that was ALL football, you swore first, and you called the first name, and you tried to blame me for all of it. Enough already. Let's move on and talk football. Driver made it as expected. Gurley didn't. Not a shocker, but it sucks to see Gurley gone. I doubt he clears wavers. Hope I'm wrong.
Just as defending Driver and expressing frustration at the overall topic doesn't mean I need a good cry. When I perceive something to be silly, I dive in. That's what I do. Whether it's Grant getting the boot for Nance or Driver getting the boot to make room for younger guys, it doesn't matter. I'll be here.
Great. I do that too. Not in the same way, but anyway. Cheers.
Might be a bummer to lose a guy like Gurley. Maybe they should make room for him by not keeping 5 TEs. If it comes down to it, dumping Driver to save $4.5 million based on unproven potential and adhering to an ethic about "better a year earlier" is BAD for the Packers.
Maybe. Maybe not. You just stating it as a fact doesn't make it so. In 2006 the Packers kept the veteran FB in your avatar and cut Vonta Leach. Leach is now the highest paid fullback in the league after being named All-Pro last season. Keeping Henderson over Leach was a rare Ted Thompson mistake in hindsight.
Hopefully the same thing didn't just happen by keeping a 36 year old Driver over Gurley. That is my concern, and I think it's a valid possibility. Maybe Gurley is just another Ruvell and Driver makes the Pro Bowl this year. I don't know, and neither do you. Don't try to pretend you know the future.
edit**: I don't get personally offended, either.
Good. You shouldn't. But when I just said that, you responded with "Yeah, you're so cool and above everything," so I'm thinking you do get offended based on that douchey response. Or that stupid junior high comment applies to you as well. Take your pick, I guess.
When I say "my blood is boiling" isn't.
Huh.
This is a forum. Being a hothead makes it a lot more fun, trust me.
Hey, I'm all for a good argument, if you can't tell by now. And I'm no newcomer to Packer forums. I started and run two of them. So you don't have to give me tips. I'd name the sites and invite you to join, but Zero got butthurt when I put one of them in my sig, so I'll defer to his wishes of not naming them here. This is a good forum, and I'm really not here to pimp my sites. The more forums the merrier, IMO. I go to 4 of them fairly regularly, including this one.
And if you must know, the real reason I dragged this thing out (and looking back, it was ill advised) is because I really don't like being accused of being a homer. It get's too easy to put people into stereotypical camps: if you defend McCarthy, you're a homer. If you think Driver still has it, you're emotionally involved. The only extent to which I am emotionally involved is when someone floats an argument that I think is weak, I'm subsequently baffled, then I go on a rant. It's not about "Driver love" or "Favre love" or any of that.
Fair enough. Let me just say this though- It's not that you defended Driver. Everyone loves Donald Driver. It's that you defended Driver with an emotional rant, a dismissal of facts (drops last year and this preseason), and weak off-base arguments about Mike Mamula and Al Davis.
I hope Driver makes you look like a genius and me like an idiot for wanting to keep anyone over him this year. The Packers decided that keeping him was worthwhile, and they're right more often than not, so maybe he will.
I don't think he's washed up, but I know that most WRs, even Hall of Famers, don't light it up at 36 years old. I also know that he didn't light it up at 35 years old and that he's coming off an injury after being limited by injury last year. Say what you want, but it's not "silly" to think he might possibly be on the decline. It's likely. He's one of the oldest WRs in the NFL, and he's only 1 year and 1 week away from being THE oldest WR in the NFL.