zombieslayer
13 years ago

The time to have this discussion was before training camp, unless Driver got hurt or underperformed in the preseason, which clearly has not been the case. He's looked as sharp as ever, and he's been perfectly healthy. What, then, would be the point in Ted and the coaching staff keeping Driver on the team, taking valuable reps with the #1 offense both in practice and in preseason games (more reps than any other player, I believe), only to cut him at the end of training camp?

I think some fans have become overconfident in Ted Thompson's ability to find young unheralded players who can perform at a high level in the NFL. It happened last year with Sam Shields, and to a lesser extent, Frank Zombo and Erik Walden. But it's not going to happen every year. Also, people may be taking Ted's unemotional approach a bit too far. Yes, he makes his decisions based on facts instead of sentimentality, but that doesn't mean he ignores the emotional makeup of the team. It would send a very weird message to the team for Ted to cut Driver right now, in addition to subtracting one of the top four WRs. Jones and Nelson may have passed him up, but not by a whole lot.

Originally Posted by: Greg C. 



That's the thing. Have Jones and Nelson passed Driver up?

I don't think they have. 2011 will answer this question more thoroughly. But as of September 1st, 2011, Driver is our 2nd best WR. He stays for the remainder of 2011.

Driver still may be our fastest WR, for the record. He's still faster than Nelson.
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earthquake
13 years ago
edit: Whoops wrong thread. 😛
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Wade
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13 years ago

This seems to be a hot topic in several threads and hopefully someone hasn't created one for it already. :)


I think if the Packers have a WR that makes them consider cutting Donald Driver, they should keep an extra WR.

I'd like to see him on the 2011 roster, but if he's not, I wouldn't be upset. I don't think he should be around in 2012 for the Packers.

Greg Jennings, I say he's Packers for life.
James Jones, I think he'll be #2 sooner than some expect.
Jordy Nelson, his wife plays a big role in whether he remains in Green Bay or leaves.
Donald Driver, I'm a little concerned about the drops and health.
Randall Cobb, rookie, but I haven't seen him really play other than return a kick off.

I think Jordy resigns before the end of 2011. And I think the Packers should have 6 WR on the roster this year.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I presume you mean "re-signs."

"Resigns" has, ahem, a different meaning.

Pedantically yours,
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DakotaT
13 years ago

Create a website, mine's gone for nearly 5 years, let's see how yours does. ;)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




Wouldn't even know where to start, or have the time.
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13 years ago
Oh, re: the main point of thread:
1. Jennings, hopefully for years and years.
2 (sooner than people think here, I agree).
3. Driver (this year and next year).
4. Nelson this year, Cobb next year.
5. Cobb this year, West or some other guy next year.
6 or PS: West or some other guy.

I still think that there's no way Nelson ever passes Jones. I think it's more likely that Cobb will pass Nelson after this year.

So I don't think he's going to be back after this year, regardless of what happens to Driver and when.

And lets not forget, it's almost a guarantee that Ted Thompson will draft a WR again next year.
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Porforis
13 years ago

That's the thing. Have Jones and Nelson passed Driver up?

I don't think they have. 2011 will answer this question more thoroughly. But as of September 1st, 2011, Driver is our 2nd best WR. He stays for the remainder of 2011.

Driver still may be our fastest WR, for the record. He's still faster than Nelson.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



I think Nelson and Jones passed Driver up last year (apart from a few big drops by Jones), but this preseason Driver has been rock solid. Granted, it's hard to compare him to Nelson and Jones because of how few balls they've been thrown, but Driver is definitely playing better than he did last season.
tromadz
13 years ago
Green Bay will never cut Driver. Too valuable as a player and a leader.

Driver is still better than any WR on the Bears. Yeah he gets the dropsies occasionally, but the man's tough, and when he takes his shirt off...my gawd!
nerdmann
13 years ago
Back in the day, Ted Thompson had to get rid of all the Favre loyalists. There were guys on the team who would go along with Favre changing the plays and whatnot, trying to run the team himself. Because of this, and because of the Favre fiasco, there was talk that Ted Thompson was disrespecting veterans. He was not doing so, imo. What he was doing was attempting to re-establish control of the team by getting rid of guys who weren't getting with the program.
So the Packers have had to do some PR as a result. Last year they asked Tauscher to stick around with the team, even after his injury. They kept Al Harris around until the last possible moment. They even gave Harris a ring.
The thing with Nick Barnett might be a little different, as I suspect he might have been one of the Favre loyalists from back in the day. The last one hanging around. Although you might add DD into that group as well.
Fact is, imo, they can't get rid of DD for his reason. They will keep him on the team, but will give him a pitch count to prevent injury. They want to keep him healthy so he will last the season. Hopefully as a result of this, the Packers will not lose an up and coming talent who would have as much or more to offer this year, plus another 10 years down the road. But Ted Thompson has shown ability to consistently draft talented young WRs, and being that there are not alot of holes on this team, should be able to target one in the upcoming draft.
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DakotaT
13 years ago
Sorry Nerdmann, I believe you but it's not justified to me. We don't have the luxury of stashing talent on the practice squad anymore so maybe a guy like Zombo will have to be IR'd. The premise of keeping Driver out of loyalty and chemistry over talent is wrong, and we can discuss it until somebody jumps through the screen and chokes me - I won't budge.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

Sorry Nerdmann, I believe you but it's not justified to me. We don't have the luxury of stashing talent on the practice squad anymore so maybe a guy like Zombo will have to be IR'd. The premise of keeping Driver out of loyalty and chemistry over talent is wrong, and we can discuss it until somebody jumps through the screen and chokes - I won't budge.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 




I already posted what I would do. I'm just saying, Ted Thompson won't do that. They'll keep him, because of all the political considerations. He gets one more year, gets the all time team receiving record, hopefully lasts the season. Probably plays 2-3 years with the Vikings, then becomes a talking head like Tiki Barber, only more successful.

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