evad04
13 years ago
This damn website raises my blood pressure to unhealthy levels. Your assessment notwithstanding, Louder at Lambeau, Driver can still play. I appreciate your completely overblown mention of his preseason performance against the Colts, as I do your personal opinion that Jennings, Jones, Nelson, & Cobb are better options at receiver. Can Cobb play every position at receiver like Driver, Jones, Jennings, and Nelson? Oh, I guess it doesn't matter, because Cobb is so damn exciting and this is such a damn exciting time.

Which leads me to Gurley. I wanna say thank you to those that have pointed out his height and 40-times. Anyone wanna take a time machine back to the day and grab workout warrior Mike Mamula? Perhaps instead we should go back to the '09 draft and trade up from the 9th pick (B.J. Raji) to swipe Darrius Heyward-Bey before the Raiders have a chance. Seems like a good strategy, knowing as we all do that the Raiders' draft strategy for the the last decade of the senile-Al Davis years have lead to a team stocked with arm strength, size, speed, and athleticism and perpetual five win seasons.

I happen to like Gurley. I happen to think he has some potential, and his wingspan is a fun little stat to the throw out. But can he make a difference in our offense like Driver can? Do you actually think he can? And if the answer is yes, are you willing to give up a player whose value to the franchise is well known? You may cite a decrease in production for Driver over the years, but do you ignore that we've added options and that now he's in the deepest offense he's been a part of since joining Green Bay? Yeah, Driver was a 1,200 receiver back in the day that the 4-6th options were guys like Bill Schroeder and Wesley Walls. When you add Jennings, Jones, Nelson and co. into the picture, and throw in a nagging quad injury, it's not shocking to see a dip in production.

This whole discussion is silly. Oh, you're offended? Well I don't give a flying diarrhea shit. It's silly.
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13 years ago

Was that the obvious one? Wide open over the middle?

Originally Posted by: Greg C. 



I think there's a worse one later. The one in the first quarter was at least kinda tough, with him turning around to catch it slightly behind him. I'm gonna try to watch more of that game later. I'll report back if/when I do.

evad04
13 years ago

TT's PR was winning the Super Bowl. He doesn't need PR. I'd argue their indifference towards the politics of Super Bowl pictures and White House trips shows just how little they care about that stuff.

Interesting thought, mind you.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 


Don't reward him for that post. My God, it's like some of you have been infected by pod people. It's like watching my much elder relatives watch Glenn Beck and add, "Hmm... he might be on to something." It's like watching "The Boondock Saints" and listening to the amateur detective throw out his theories on the "serial crusher" guy. It's maddening. Nerdmann has absolutely no basis for his PR-theory other than the psychosis that streams from his consciousness

That's right nerdmann, I'm not giving up on you any time soon. So go ahead and tell you me "I love you man, xoxox". Please, say "Ergo" one more motherfreakin' time. Say it! Say ERGO! I know you want to. Please, tell someone who disagrees with your posts line-item that "well, it seems like we agree." We don't. I have a healthy respect for things that closely resemble, you know, reality.

Just to put it in plain language: Ted Thompson was having trouble with Favre loyalist hangovers. These guys were apparently "not with the program" so he needed to get rid of them one-by-one. Barnett was the last of these folks, and you "might as well" throw DD into that mix. This is my attempt to paraphrase nerdmann's "thought provoking" post. What the shit, man. What the freakin' shit. Stop poisoning my mind with stupidity.
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Greg C.
13 years ago
Nerdmann's theory is typical of these kinds of theories in two ways: 1.) There is no real evidence to support it (not even an attempt to present such evidence), and 2.) It can be used to "explain" anything that happens. If an older player is cut, it's because they were a "Favre loyalist." If an older player is retained, it's because Ted is making a PR move so people won't catch onto his purge of the "Favre loyalists." No matter what happens, it is all part of the master plan.
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Pack93z
13 years ago
I think the Chiefs did the Packers a huge favor in playing their starters for most of the game.. it gave the Packers much film to roll through before making the cuts with young guys going against 1st and 2nd string players.

For example a guy like West tonight didn't have much separation at all at first blush.

It is this type of game action that will assist the coaches. IMO.. there is no way that Packers let Driver go in place of the youngsters.


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nerdmann
13 years ago
Sounds like we agree. I'm not saying that Ted Thompson will ditch DD, because he was a Favre loyalist. I'm saying that he now has to be more conscious of going out of his way to show respect to veteran players. Like he did with Tauscher and Al Harris last year. (Not to provide evidence or anything.) Ergo, we have the same opinion vis a vis the "Favre Loyalist" theory in that it will not add weight to the possibility of DD getting cut.
I also believe we agree as to whether or not Ted Thompson will even cut DD. Ergo, we both believe that Ted Thompson will in fact NOT cut DD.
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mi_keys
13 years ago

Don't reward him for that post. My God, it's like some of you have been infected by pod people. It's like watching my much elder relatives watch Glenn Beck and add, "Hmm... he might be on to something." It's like watching "The Boondock Saints" and listening to the amateur detective throw out his theories on the "serial crusher" guy. It's maddening. Nerdmann has absolutely no basis for his PR-theory other than the psychosis that streams from his consciousness

That's right nerdmann, I'm not giving up on you any time soon. So go ahead and tell you me "I love you man, xoxox". Please, say "Ergo" one more motherfreakin' time. Say it! Say ERGO! I know you want to. Please, tell someone who disagrees with your posts line-item that "well, it seems like we agree." We don't. I have a healthy respect for things that closely resemble, you know, reality.

Just to put it in plain language: Ted Thompson was having trouble with Favre loyalist hangovers. These guys were apparently "not with the program" so he needed to get rid of them one-by-one. Barnett was the last of these folks, and you "might as well" throw DD into that mix. This is my attempt to paraphrase nerdmann's "thought provoking" post. What the shit, man. What the freakin' shit. Stop poisoning my mind with stupidity.

Originally Posted by: evad04 



But evad, if we don't feed the troll how are we supposed to get anything to debate. God know Ted Thompson is too good to give us anything worth legitimately arguing over.

In all seriousness, it's just like any conspiracy theory out there (assuming we're not talking about something as sensitive and flat out fucking offensive as some of the moronic ones about 9/11): it's stupid and entertaining.
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mi_keys
13 years ago

Sounds like we agree. I'm not saying that Ted Thompson will ditch DD, because he was a Favre loyalist. I'm saying that he now has to be more conscious of going out of his way to show respect to veteran players. Like he did with Tauscher and Al Harris last year. (Not to provide evidence or anything.) Ergo, we have the same opinion vis a vis the "Favre Loyalist" theory in that it will not add weight to the possibility of DD getting cut.
I also believe we agree as to whether or not Ted Thompson will even cut DD. Ergo, we both believe that Ted Thompson will in fact NOT cut DD.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



If anyone had any lingering doubts as to your being a troll, they are now long gone.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
There's only one question with Donald Driver in 2011.

One.

Uno.

The only question is, will he be the #2 or #3 WR? It's up to James Jones to take the #2 spot from him. Personally, I trust Driver more than I trust Jones unless my man Edgar Bennett can do some seriously mental wizardry with Jones.

I think Jones has tons of talent. But he keeps dropping important stuff.

When it's epic, Driver catches it. Simple as that.

Driver is still the quickest WR we got. Only Gregorious runs routes better than Driver. That makes Driver the 2nd best route running WR on the team. Driver also has great chemistry with Aaron so on a broken play, Aaron and my man Donald Driver know what to do.

That's it.

This argument is done. Driver is a Packer in all of 2011. There is no more discussion. I'm starting to think we have some escaped loonie bin patients who somehow managed to log into this board.
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evad04
13 years ago

Sounds like we agree. I'm not saying that Ted Thompson will ditch DD, because he was a Favre loyalist. I'm saying that he now has to be more conscious of going out of his way to show respect to veteran players. Like he did with Tauscher and Al Harris last year. (Not to provide evidence or anything.) Ergo, we have the same opinion vis a vis the "Favre Loyalist" theory in that it will not add weight to the possibility of DD getting cut.
I also believe we agree as to whether or not Ted Thompson will even cut DD. Ergo, we both believe that Ted Thompson will in fact NOT cut DD.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Alright, Matlock, so let me get this straight: were Thompson to even consider cutting DD, at the forefront of weighing the roster spot is his balancing of whether keeping DD will be seen as going out of his way to respect a veteran? And this all comes from your serial crusher... I mean, your Favre loyalty theory?

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