13 years ago
Anyword on Wilson's injury as of yet? Hope it's not too terrible definitely gonna need him in the rotation. Also being down in Florida has prevented me from hearing the latest on Mike Neal, what sort of injury happened exactly?
nerdmann
13 years ago

Thanks to everyone who watched the game and commented. Didn't see it.

Some questions:
1) How would you rate our OL for pass protection?
2) How would you rate our OL for run blocking?
3) Is Aaron locking in on Finley too much?

Thanks in advance.



These comments and some of the other comments about our OL bother me. Will our OL be ready by Sept 8? I still think our major flaw is our OL. I don't care how many SBs we win, I still reserve the Right to bitch about our OL until we start seeing entire games where Aaron walks away with a clean jersey.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 





The OL seems shaky but serviceable. The shakiness revolves pretty much around Lang and Sherrod. Lang looks like he's fine, with just the issue of getting to the second level on run plays. Sherrod needs work, which may be why they are giving him some. They want flexibility on game days. It's annoying but that's their philosophy. The run game is gonna be awesome, especially if they get get Green going on screens. That dude is masterful off his blockers and has speed to take it the distance. Also showed power up the middle on the TD. Grant as usual was breaking into the open field, then cutting into his own blockers. He looks like he's back up to speed as far as the old Ryan Grant, but sometimes it seems like he's blindfolded out there.
Aaron wasn't locking in on Finley, but he did seem to force a couple throws to Jennings.
To answer some other questions, Neal fell and lightly sprained his knee on non-contact this week, so was held out as a precaution, CJ Wilson was held out do to a possible slight concussion. He'll likely be fine.
Once again, MD Jennings showed up in the backfield. Could be another Charlie Peprah out there. And of course the 97 yard play by Chastin West. He looked like Robert Brooks on that play. Remember that 99 yarder Brooks had against the Bears? Flynn hit him right in stride. It was one of those sure TDs that Jones misses. Over the shoulder catch.
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earthquake
13 years ago

Anyword on Wilson's injury as of yet? Hope it's not too terrible definitely gonna need him in the rotation. Also being down in Florida has prevented me from hearing the latest on Mike Neal, what sort of injury happened exactly?

Originally Posted by: FLORIDA PACKER88 



Wilson had a concussion, which should be 1-2 weeks standard procedure.

Neal could be 1-4 weeks from what I've read. However i think Mike McCarthy has been saying "day to day" so hopefully its not very serious.
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beast
13 years ago

IMO.. The offensive line looks like this to me at this point.
Tackle
Clifton, Bulaga, Sherrod, Newhouse (Played a nice game overall.. nice bounce back)
Dominguez (too talented IMO not to keep him)

Inside is the concern right now... I think we could drop one of the above inside if need be.
Guard
Lang, Sitton

Center
Wells
EDS as a G/C combo?

McDonald IMO has been disappointing so far..

Genus.. love his guys build for inside play.. short compact and stout.. could he make a run at a roster spot.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



you sure it was Dominguez? I didn't watch him so I don't know... but I've read he was getting beat like crazy in practice like no one else was getting beat... and all the media guys where saying he has to move to OG to have a shot at making it...

I remember last year when standing still Campbell looked like a heavy footed slow road graded but played like a soft (bad) dancing bear (good). He moved crazy well for a guy his size, but just didn't seem willing to be physical or mean though looked the part.

Also after hearing so many good things about Newhouse in early training camp I'm surprised they haven't tried him at OG. He's got the size of a OG.

So you'd keep EDS over McD? That's disappointing to hear... McD had/has potential...

also agree with you about Genus. I could help but think he's a lock for the PS after reading up on him some. But that was just a guess. I was thinking it's gonna be hard to make the roster with no mini camp for them.
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beast
13 years ago

I think Lang has regressed during his time in Green Bay.. his footwork was better coming out of college than now.. a theme I have noted under Campen for a number of years. IMO.. Campen is the weak link of the coaching staff.. by a mile.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



If we can see this, why can't the Packers' front office? I am not being sarcastic here. I really wonder why Campen seems to be such a blind spot for this organization. Do they attribute the flaws in the offensive line's performance more to sub-par talent than poor coaching?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



I think Mike McCarthy and the Packers front offense believe in build from with in and coach up. Including coach up their coaches, when they need to be... Mike McCarthy hasn't done a lot of firing other than when he finally choose to let more of D coach go... but I don't think that was easy for MM. I think he was having a huge problem with the logic behind the system on D. On O he's not having that problem because it's his system and his logic...

Also is it just Campen? Isn't Offensive Coordinator Joe Philbin a former OL coach and in charge of the running plays and suppose to be working very closely with Campen and the OL?

As for players regressing during their time in GB... I was saying the same thing about LB coach Winston Moss players until Bishop busted out. But Hawk and Chillar regressed during their times with the Packers compared to their time before the Packers. I think Barnett stayed about the same, just his weak areas showed up a lot more when they switched to the 3-4. And he had a couple of players with good potential that seemed to not improve any or got worse. Until Bishop broke out.
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IronMan
13 years ago

Campen is the weak link of the coaching staff.. by a mile.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 

Slocum.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Slocum.

Originally Posted by: IronMan 



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13 years ago

The OL seems shaky but serviceable. The shakiness revolves pretty much around Lang and Sherrod. Lang looks like he's fine, with just the issue of getting to the second level on run plays. Sherrod needs work, which may be why they are giving him some. They want flexibility on game days. It's annoying but that's their philosophy. The run game is gonna be awesome, especially if they get get Green going on screens. That dude is masterful off his blockers and has speed to take it the distance. Also showed power up the middle on the TD. Grant as usual was breaking into the open field, then cutting into his own blockers. He looks like he's back up to speed as far as the old Ryan Grant, but sometimes it seems like he's blindfolded out there.
Aaron wasn't locking in on Finley, but he did seem to force a couple throws to Jennings.
To answer some other questions, Neal fell and lightly sprained his knee on non-contact this week, so was held out as a precaution, CJ Wilson was held out do to a possible slight concussion. He'll likely be fine.
Once again, MD Jennings showed up in the backfield. Could be another Charlie Peprah out there. And of course the 97 yard play by Chastin West. He looked like Robert Brooks on that play. Remember that 99 yarder Brooks had against the Bears? Flynn hit him right in stride. It was one of those sure TDs that Jones misses. Over the shoulder catch.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I really hope the bolded phrase proves out to be wrong, nerdmann. I have self-imposed a moratorium on criticism in this regard until after the first regular season game, but if the first "game that counts" shows the OL to be in for another year of "serviceable", I'm going to get seriously cranky again. Serviceable should not be sufficient for a team seeking to repeat.

(Aside to zombieslayer: I'm not saying that the Super Bowl entitles the Packer brain trust to be immune from criticism re the OL; only that I'll give them the preseason to get their act together. Of course it helps that I haven't seen more than a couple series so far, so I have no basis for opining and gnashing of teeth anyway. Yet.)

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beast
13 years ago

if the first "game that counts" shows the OL to be in for another year of "serviceable", I'm going to get seriously cranky again. Serviceable should not be sufficient for a team seeking to repeat.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



1) 🐴

2) Packers are the current top dogs and you're already seriously cranky

3) Look what "serviceable" got last year.....

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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
It also got us a quarterback with two concussions in a single season. That is worrisome, no matter how the Super Bowl worked out in the end.
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