Total QBR - Replacing the current QB Rating?· Page 3

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

I don't need some new formula to tell me if my teams qb is controlling the clock or turning over the ball. Just watch the game, it will tell you everything you need.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

That'd be great, if I had enough time to sit an watch every game.

porky88
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#22

No system is ever going to work better than actually seeing someone play.

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland

I couldn’t have said it any better. That's the only system you need, though I do understand why ESPN is attempting to try something different. It creates discussion, which is always welcome, but at the end of the day, I trust my brains and eyes more than stats that have flaws.

http://www.row12.com/

musccy
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#23

I couldn’t have said it any better. That's the only system you need, though I do understand why ESPN is attempting to try something different. It creates discussion, which is always welcome, but at the end of the day, I trust my brains and eyes more than stats that have flaws.

Originally Posted by: porky88

So are you suggesting that your analysis is w/o flaws?!? 🤣

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#24

Originally Posted by: porky88

What the hell is this happy horse shit, you have more than one brain??? 😳

vikesrule
Registered

13 years ago

#25

What the hell is this happy horse shit, you have more than one brain??? 😳

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

There you go, getting all Christopher Walken on us again.

"Brains", to me, is a synonym for intelligence, while "brain" is usually referring to the physical organ. It does seem to vary by expression, though.
Of course, if you don't have a brain, you can't very well have "brains."

And when it comes to football, porky definitely has "brains".

porky88
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#26

So are you suggesting that your analysis is w/o flaws?!? 🤣

Originally Posted by: musccy

Are you suggesting it is flawed? [neener]

http://www.row12.com/

macbob
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#27

Since they've been compiling the info needed to calculate ESPN's Total QBR, it'd be interesting if they'd run it for 2008/2009/2010 and compare it against the QB rating and see if there was any difference. If not a significant difference, then not worth going to the additional effort.

musccy
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#28

Are you suggesting it is flawed? [neener]

Originally Posted by: porky88

Nope, based on my observations of your posts, you're 90% right 110% of the time 🤣

musccy
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#29

Originally Posted by: macbob

But if you discover a difference, what does that accomplish? Again, if ESPN wants to go to all the trouble I'm not opposed to it, but it seems like a lot of work for inconsequential gains.

Do you NEED the QBR for HOF voting, for Pro Bowl voting, for MVP voting? In all instances we can think of how the eyeball test trumped stats. Vick was 2nd in MVP voting playing only 12 games and having inferior statistics to Schaub, Rodgers, Manning, Roddy White, A.Peterson, etc. but people understood his impact to the team w/o some fancy schmancy new stat.

All this QBR seems to accomplish is to give Skip Bayless or Colin Cowherd another arbitrary number to site when arguing who the best QB in the league is.

Packers_Finland
Registered

13 years ago

#30

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/08/15/introducing-the-pff-passer-rating/

This QB rating looks like the most accurate ranking of QB play by far.

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

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