No doubt but what do YOU do when you compare QB1 to QB2?

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1a 1b. Simple.

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If only I could photoshop.

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Do we really need another ranking system to tell us, what we already know?
Rodgers is the best QB, in the NFL! [grin1]

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I like smart asses more than I like dumb ones.

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I like FO's approach of comparing performance against NFL average/baseline performances, adjusted by the strength of opponent to calculate an offensive or defensive Defense-adjusted Value Over Average. They're a stats geek's heaven.

Profootballfocus > Football Outsiders

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The Total QBR did not get anywhere near my expectations.

This “statistic” is just a few men’s analyses of how football should be played. Heavy emphasis on the situation, but also on things that the QB cannot control. Emphasis on being clutch behind or late in the game, while great plays during a blowout count for less. QBs with better defenses are hurt by the fact that the games they are in aren't as close.

Quaterbacks whose INTs are not turned in to points are hurt less by the rating than those whose INTs are. This is usually not something that a QB has any control over. Though in this scenario the ends affect the stat, in others they don't necessarily.

QBs are rewarded for the ball being in the air longer, when sometimes a perfect short pass into space at the right time is more effective. By making YAC less important, they are hurting some very precise quarterbacks' work within great offensive systems.
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It seems unfair to diminish YAC but play up the fact that it was for a TD. One thing he can't entirely control matters to his rating but another doesn't.

Anyway, I wan't pleased...for many reasons, some listed some not. I suppose for the time being I'll leave the others for the following discussion.

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Just ESPN trying to "create" something they can take credit for.

The only stat that counts is that w-l stat.

Beyond that, create turnovers, control time of possesion, a team is going to win most games.

I don't need some new formula to tell me if my teams qb is controlling the clock or turning over the ball. Just watch the game, it will tell you everything you need.

Over-anylization already runs rampant in the NFL, I personally don't need ESPN to try and give me more.

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Exactly buckeye. I respect that ESPN is attempting to do, but whatever you create is going to have inherent flaws.

One I see is the weighting of late game performance. I understand the rationale, but pressure can be high even in the early stages of a big game (just ask Favre at Dallas in the 90s) and being productive out of the gate can be just as important, especially if you can force the opponent out of their gameplan or away from their strengths for the next 30-45 minutes.

I don't need stats to tell me that Warner was a better option at QB than Leihart, the eyeball test works just as well.