I can appreciate your righteous rants; but I am a football junkie and am willing to pay the dime, because it is my vice. .

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

I don't understand why people would be annoyed by the lockout at this point assuming it ends next week. Sure a bunch of old rich men were arguing with some young rich athletes about a lot of money, but ultimately they're going to get it resolved without missing games and making some reasonable compromises (lowered rookie contracts, no 18 game season, ect.). The rest of the offseason should be exciting because we are going to have a free agency frenzy (which the Packers probably won't participate in), almost immediately opening of training camp along with the preseason. Soon enough we'll be watching the Pack hand the Saints a loss to open the year.

Originally Posted by: The_Claymaker 

Sitting down eating wings and being pleasured by a young... err served by a young waitress would be great. Unfortunately, DirecTV is my only option to see the games, in the confines of my home.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Yes but in the confines of my own home there are truly annoying interruptions that can wait for my seven hours of football to be over. The serving wench, chicken wings, and beer with buddies is a much better route.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

People are probably annoyed because they ALL knew a new deal HAD to be established and they didn't show any urgency until the other started suing the other. This is something that PROFESSIONALS should have resolved MONTHS before the expiration of the previous deal.

People also are probably pissed because while they are struggling to make ends meet with their 40+ hour job to live in a middle class neighborhood with a middle class life style these millionaire's and billionaire's are acting like spoiled bitches. Mind you, the money they are arguing over spending is that of the fans, who are comprised of people who save up months so they can take their child to one game, the same people who cut corners so they can order NFL Sunday Ticket to watch their team play and buy team memorabilia.


I understand why some are pissed off and why some have said fuck the NFL altogether. No one likes GREEDY people and that's what the NFL/Owners and Players are portraying of themselves by not being responsible enough to establish a CBA prior the previous ones expiration.

You think because games haven't been missed that the fan's haven't missed anything? What about the few open OTA's fan's can see? What about the Free Agency frenzy that so many fans love to watch happen?

There's more to the NFL than just the games.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I don't understand why people would be annoyed by the lockout at this point assuming it ends next week. Sure a bunch of old rich men were arguing with some young rich athletes about a lot of money, but ultimately they're going to get it resolved without missing games and making some reasonable compromises (lowered rookie contracts, no 18 game season, ect.). The rest of the offseason should be exciting because we are going to have a free agency frenzy (which the Packers probably won't participate in), almost immediately opening of training camp along with the preseason. Soon enough we'll be watching the Pack hand the Saints a loss to open the year.

Originally Posted by: The_Claymaker 

The revision of the 1986 Federal Tax Code featured a loophole that owners immediately embraced. Any municipality building a stadium could only get back eight cents of every dollar generated in the facility to pay down the stadium debt. Owners, depending on the lease terms, could keep 92 cents of every dollar spent in the building.



Taxpayers should be asking why the politicos have gone troppo on this issue. Sports fans are not rational when it comes to their teams, their sport. They don't understand that sports is a business first and is heavily dependent on government support. State and local governments are spending hundreds of millions of dollars on facilities and are not coming close to breaking even on the projects. Because of that, governments have to tap other taxable areas to pay off the debt. There are all kinds of taxes, a hotel tax, a motel tax, car rental tax, sewer tax, cigarette tax, beer and alcohol tax, water tax and whatever else politicians can find to tax for sports. Sports owners can depreciate player contracts and don't pay any property taxes on facilities.

I'm not really buying this. The free agent frenzy will still exist and might be even better because it will be more urgent with training camps opening in the near future. And OTA's? What percentage of fans care about OTA's? An percentage probably attend.

Originally Posted by: The_Claymaker 

So my question is this.. why aren't more tax paying Americans not disgusted with the greed flaunted by these sports leagues, owners and athletes that are afforded extra breaks yet complaining about how to divvy up record revenues?

Originally Posted by: Pack93z