Zero2Cool
13 years ago
So, yah, it is pretty cool to see the passer rating differential, but that's kind of like analyzing if you scored more points than the other team you win.

If a team is very pass efficient, there's a good chance they won, or it was a high scoring game in which they lost.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

You're the one that brought up hatred and racism, knowing full well it would send me down that tangent. It was practically bait. =d>

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



(Still wonders if DakotaT actually read the original post).

So, yah, it is pretty cool to see the passer rating differential, but that's kind of like analyzing if you scored more points than the other team you win.

If a team is very pass efficient, there's a good chance they won, or it was a high scoring game in which they lost.

Zero2Cool wrote:



Not really. What it implied is that you passed more accurately than the other team.

Let's take a hypothetical example. Team A threw for 300 yards, completed 70% of their passes, 3 TDs, 0 INTs. Ran 10 times for 15 yards (rushing TDs unlisted.

Team B threw for 100 yards, completed 40% of their passes, threw 1 TD and 4 INTs but ran 40 times for 200 yards (rushing TDs unlisted).

Who won?

By the original argument, Team A wins most of the time.

Note that the reason why rushing TDs are unlisted is it's not part of the stats for "rushing O" whereas passing rating is the topic of this post.
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13 years ago

So you and Macbob, huh? May you both get diarrhea tonight. 🤬

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 




That was cold. All I was...just a minute, I'll be right back...

ok, all I was--crap, I'll be back in a minute...

as I was saying, All I...goshdarnit--curse you, ZS! 😲
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

(Still wonders if DakotaT actually read the original post).



Not really. What it implied is that you passed more accurately than the other team.

Let's take a hypothetical example. Team A threw for 300 yards, completed 70% of their passes, 3 TDs, 0 INTs. Ran 10 times for 15 yards (rushing TDs unlisted.

Team B threw for 100 yards, completed 40% of their passes, threw 1 TD and 4 INTs but ran 40 times for 200 yards (rushing TDs unlisted).

Who won?

By the original argument, Team A wins most of the time.

Note that the reason why rushing TDs are unlisted is it's not part of the stats for "rushing O" whereas passing rating is the topic of this post.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 




So you make up one unlikely scenario to try and prove your point, without even putting up the QB rating?




(point of this post, get it fucking back on topic you diarrhea fuckers!!!!)
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DakotaT
13 years ago




(point of this post, get it fucking back on topic you diarrhea fuckers!!!!)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




You should have a conversation with my mother sometime Zero, she switches topics mid-sentence. Gifted people can have 2 or 3 thoughts going on at the same time, it's when they communicate them at the same time that you have trouble.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

You should have a conversation with my mother sometime Zero, she switches topics mid-sentence. Gifted people can have 2 or 3 thoughts going on at the same time, it's when they communicate them at the same time that you have trouble.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 


Oh fine, there's no saving this one! lol

I'd rather not, nothing personal, but I've had several friends of mine start laughing when I'm telling them something. They claim that I change subjects middle of a sentence and sometimes, even in the middle of a word. The first to notice was Evan and he never said a damn thing to me until I finally asked "dude... why you laughing man, I didn't even tell you the funny part".

He claims it's my ADD kick'n into overdrive.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

So you make up one unlikely scenario to try and prove your point, without even putting up the QB rating?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Passer rating is implied. A rating like that would definitely be well over 100+, probably around 120-130. That's the point. With a real high passer rating vs your opponent's real low passer rating (let's say theirs was around 40 or 50), the rushing yards become irrelevant. The team that passed better won.

Oh and Macbob, I was joking. I hope you don't get diarrhea. As for DakotaT though.....
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DakotaT
13 years ago

Oh fine, there's no saving this one! lol

I'd rather not, nothing personal, but I've had several friends of mine start laughing when I'm telling them something. They claim that I change subjects middle of a sentence and sometimes, even in the middle of a word. The first to notice was Evan and he never said a damn thing to me until I finally asked "dude... why you laughing man, I didn't even tell you the funny part".

He claims it's my ADD kick'n into overdrive.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




So why so pissed when we hijack threads? Conformity sucks.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

So why so pissed when we hijack threads? Conformity sucks.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 


I wasn't aware I was pissed, thanks for the memo. 🙂

BTW, it's the off season, no thread stays on topic and I really don't much care... unless the topic is about something important, you know, like my daughter.

Passer rating is implied. A rating like that would definitely be well over 100+, probably around 120-130. That's the point. With a real high passer rating vs your opponent's real low passer rating (let's say theirs was around 40 or 50), the rushing yards become irrelevant. The team that passed better won.

Oh and Macbob, I was joking. I hope you don't get diarrhea. As for DakotaT though.....

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



What the hell, you some politician or something? I'm done watching you run circles with a unlikely specific scenario that has no numbers to support it, oh wait, it's ... wait for it .... IMPLIED!

[duh] [duh] [duh]
o:) 😇 😇
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Rockmolder
13 years ago

Passer rating is implied. A rating like that would definitely be well over 100+, probably around 120-130. That's the point. With a real high passer rating vs your opponent's real low passer rating (let's say theirs was around 40 or 50), the rushing yards become irrelevant. The team that passed better won.

Oh and Macbob, I was joking. I hope you don't get diarrhea. As for DakotaT though.....

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Lets go with 35 attempts? First one would be 125.9.

20 attempts seems fair on the second one... That'd make the passer rating 33.3.

Anyway, the highly improbable part in your example are the stats themselves. I don't think that you need a good running game to win anymore, but it's a huge help and putting up such bad stats while your RB rushes for 200 yards would mean that you're playing Ryan Leaf or something.

But yeah, the point itsself is somewhat obvious. It's one in the line of "teams who rush more in the 4th usually win", "teams who get more turnovers than they throw tend to come out on top" and "when you score more points than the opponent, you generally win".
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