Next year, please let the fans decide the 'Top 100 Players'· Page 2

Cheesey
Preferred Member

13 years ago

It's an opinion piece.
Of course we see many Packers as better then alot of guys on the list. But it's not a big deal, really.

mi_keys
Senior Member

13 years ago

#12

It's an opinion piece.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Yup, and my opinion is that his opinions are naively formed and on the whole pretty shite. My opinion doesn't matter either but I voice it from time to time.

Born and bred a cheesehead

Formo
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#13

He's not even valuable with his guards. Without them the Giants might as well throw me back there at quarterback.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

Touche.

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Kingkoopa
Registered

13 years ago

#14

Jennings said today on ESPN first take that he knows of ZERO Packers players that voted for this list, and a few weeks ago Eric Winston(tackle for the Texans) said he knew of ZERO Texans players that voted for this list. I'm really starting to think the whole list is fraudulent, designed to create ratings for NFLN.

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Formo
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: Kingkoopa

Or maybe it was a very small sample of NFL players that voted.

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Pack93z
Select Member

13 years ago

#16

Or maybe it was a very small sample of NFL players that voted.

Originally Posted by: Formo

So wouldn't that make it simply frivolous?

I mean.. if you want to exclude two entire teams from the voting.. well that seems pathetic.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

The_Claymaker
Registered

13 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: Kingkoopa

I thought (emphasis on the uncertainty) I heard that it was voted on by some players at the pro bowl. The Packers obviously missed the pro bowl since they were a part of the Super Bowl. And it could have just been luck that none of the Texans were picked to do vote.

Pack93z
Select Member

13 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: The_Claymaker

Then that is even a more biased and pathetic way to determine the top 100.. take the elite grouped together and have them vote.. no political agenda there.

The list.. like most other all star teams or whatnot is nothing more than a popularity contest.. fan voted teams/lists are no different.. see the pro bowl.. alot of times guys that earned the right that year based on performance don't make it.. just another bias filled talking point to generate discuss and more importantly attention. ESPN masters the art of stirring the pot.. others follow.

Example.. Ray Lewis is a HOF player.. a great player when he was in his prime.. that prime has long past.. he still is productive, but there is no way he belong on the list let alone the top 5. Just the truth.. he isn't the impact player on the field he once was.. not even close.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

The_Claymaker
Registered

13 years ago

#19

I do think the list was far from perfect, but I found it interesting, well presented, and probably better than what a group of talking heads would put together.

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

13 years ago

#20

I thought and still think opinion polls are a waste of time. Media hype can sway opinion greatly.

It doesn't matter who is getting surveyed. It is still an opinion. People thinking Hester is a more valuable player than Jennings doesn't make it true or even relevent.

If you want to know who is better, quantify it. Do the calculationa and show your work.

Then you get no stupid arguments like, That proves it, Reed is better than Polamalu.

Your only argument is about an INT should be a -3 not a -4. Or you can't credit the QB with YAC.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

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