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Kingkoopa
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Yesterday I purchased an SI collectors edition of the Packers super bowl season, and inside SI listed their all Packer team. I thought it was interesting and would make for a good discussion. Tell me what you guys think? Would you change anything? Here is the list:

OFFENSE

QB

Brett Favre(1992-2007)

The only man to win three consecutive MVP awards(95-97)

RB

Ahman Green(2000-2006, 2009)

Packers career leader in yards from scrimmage(11,048) and touches(2,219)

FB

Jim Taylor(1958-1966)

Second to Don Hutson in TDs as a Packer(91) and led the NFL in 61 and 64.

End

Don Hutson(1935-1945)

Became the NFLs first 1,000 yard receiver with 1,211 yards in 1942.

WR

Sterling Sharpe(1988-1994)

Set NFL single season receptions record in 1992(108) and again in 1993(112).

TE

Paul Coffman(1978-1985)

His 322 catches and 4,223 yards are the most for a Green Bay Packer tight end.

OT

Forrest Gregg(1956, 58-70)

NFLs original iron man played in a then record 188 straight games.

OG

Jerry Kramer(1958-1968)

Cleared the path for the QB sneak in the ice bowl.

C

Jim Ringo(1953-1963)

Unparalled quickness earned him six firts team all NFL honors.

OG

Mike Michalske(1929-1935, 1937)

The first guard inducted into the Hall of fame led Packers to titles in 1929 and 1931.

OT

Cal Hubbard(1929-1933, 1935)

Three time NFL champion

DEFENSE

DE

Reggie White(1993-1998)

During his Packers tenure had 68.5 sacks and was named to six pro bowls.

DT

Gilbert Brown(1993-2003)

Green Bay claimed the 340 pound run stopper for a 100 dollar waiver fee.

DT

Henry Jordan(1959-1969)

Unrelenting pass rusher earned a spot on seven all NFL squads.

DE

Willie Davis(1960-1969)

Unofficially averaged 10 sacks per season, some say more, many more.

LB

Mike Douglass(1978-1985)

Two time Packers defensive MVP is fourth in team history with 967 tackles.

LB

Ray Nitschke(1958-1972)

The anchor of a five title winning defenses had 48 career takeaways.

LB

Dave Robinson(1963-1972)

Three time pro bowl selection, chosen for the NFLs all 60s team.

CB

Herb Adderley(1961-1969)

Returned eight of his 44 regular season and playoff interceptions for scores.

CB

Charles Woodson(2006-present)

scored a franchise record 9 TDs in just five seasons.

S

Willie Wood(1960-1971)

Only man to top the NFL in punt return average(1961) and interceptions(1962)

S

Leroy Butler(1990-2001)

The father of the Lambeau leap had 38 career INTs and 20.5 sacks.

Special teams and coach

K/HB

Paul Hornung(1957-1962, 1964-1966)

Kicking accounted for 86 of his then NFL record 176 points scored in 1960.

P

Craig Hentrich(1994-1997)

Holds Packers season(45.0 in 1997) and career marks(42.8) for gross average.

Coach

Vince Lombardi(1959-1967)

Guided GB to five NFL titles, including the first two SBs.

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Pack93z
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14 years ago

Pretty complete list... but I am sure that some will argue the QB selection (most based on emotion for Brett).. although I think the player that will get left out might be the best choice to fill the spot. Starr.

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Originally Posted by: Kingkoopa

Favre over Starr? I liked Sharpe too, but Sharpe over James Lofton? Lofton in some years was our entire O and football historians will argue if Lofton was the best deep threat of all-time vs Randy Moss.

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Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

Lofton is most definitely in the conversation.. it is a hard argument over what Sharpe could have (minus injury) put up with Favre throwing him darts.

The whole era debate gets dragged into this discussion as well.

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Kingkoopa
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The Starr Vs Favre discussion is a good one. Personally, I'd rather have Starr, and his famous quote explains why:

"I think the measure of a great QB is how he plays when the game is on the line, and you have to win"

Starr never put up great numbers, but he was the original clutch QB. He almost always got it done. Favre on the other hand, great QB, but no way do I want him as the QB at the end of a close championship game. I've had my heart ripped out far too many times with him under center.

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I think I would also choose Starr over Favre, but I think I agree with Sharpe over Lofton. I would explain why, but this YouTube video probably does a better job than I would.

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Wade
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14 years ago

Great OP. +1

Starr -- 5 championships.
Favre -- 1 championship.
Starr -- epitome of class, professionalism, and integrity.
Favre -- head case, texter of penii.
To me, it's not even close.

The other switch I would make is Donny Anderson for the punter.
Yeah, his punting average was low by today's standards, but he was world-class in preventing returns: 1967, 63 punts, totalreturn yards 22, yards per return 0.33.

Think about those return numbers a bit. It blows me away every time I think about it. 0.33 yards per return. 22 total return yards for the season.

And of course you didn't have PR/KR.

PR: I'm not sure.
KR: Travis Williams.

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14 years ago

PR: Desmond Howard

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Favre is at best the number 4 QB for the Packers.

Starr, 5 Championships including a threepeat. Postseason Passer Rating 104.8
Herber 3 Championships including a threepeat.
Rodgers 1 Championship and highest career QB rating in history. Postseason Passer Rating 112.6
Favre 1 Championship. Postseason Passer Rating 86.3

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

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Different eras makes it all a crapshoot. If I were building a team for the 60s, I'd want Starr. If I were building a team for the modern era or Super Bowl Bowl era, I'd take Favre. Frankly, I don't think it's that bad of a list.

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Yeah, it's a pretty good list. I would take Starr over Favre, but it's apples and oranges. As porky wrote, the fact that they played in different eras makes it hard to compare them. Also, I think that while Starr was great for longer, Favre was a more dominant player in his prime. You could say the same thing about Lofton vs. Sharpe, but at least Sharpe's dominance ended because of injury, while Favre's level of play declined. So I'll take Sharpe, but you could flip a coin on that one.

Only one current player (Woodson) is on the team, but there are three who have a shot if they sustain their level of play for a long time: Clay Matthews, B.J. Raji, and Aaron Rodgers. It will be toughest for Rodgers because he is up against two all-time greats, but I think Raji could beat out Henry Jordan or Gilbert Brown and Matthews could easily beat out Mike Douglass, who was a good player, but not a great one. I would love to be having those discussions a few years down the road!

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Zero2Cool
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#12

I wonder if JerMichael Finley could be on the list if he plays a full season or two.

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I wonder if JerMichael Finley could be on the list if he plays a full season or two.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I have a feeling Finley won't be a Packer 2 years from now.

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Wade
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I have a feeling Finley won't be a Packer 2 years from now.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

That'll be okay, though. By then the Packers will have their third three-peat.

And he'll take the money and run, and miss the first-ever NFL four-peat.

:)

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That'll be okay, though. By then the Packers will have their third three-peat.

And he'll take the money and run, and miss the first-ever NFL four-peat.

:)

Originally Posted by: Wade

And of all the ironies, he won't make the Hall with everyone else. 😉

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I might even include Cecil Isbell over Favre.

For spite.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

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The way I see it is, the Greats were the greatest of their eras. Favre is in the top 15 among his contemporaries but only barely. Star was the best of his. Rodgers is and Herber was.

I looked at the first three years of some QBs that played for quite a while. Manning, Brady, Brees, Favre, Montana and a few others. To a man, they all were not their best their first 3 years as starters. They all got 5-10 points better after that point. If Rodgers follows the historical precedent, he would end up with a career QB rating around 105.

You also have to remember that if you get Favre, you don't just get him at his best. You also get the INTs and the heartbreaking melt downs in the playoffs. That is why Starr, Rodgers and Herber are much better choices.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

PackerTraxx
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Starr and Favre are arguable. Favre never had tha weapons Starr had respective to their era. Even Wolf has said that is his one regret with the Packers. I'm glad we had both.

Sharpe and Lofton. I give the edge to Lofton. Wish both would have had longer careers in GB. If Sharpe would not have had his condition Favre, Freeman and the Packers would have been even better.

One player worth mentioning is Gale Gillingham. He never got the recogniton he deserved because he played on some bad teams and Little and Upshaw became HOF player when teams saw what Jerry Kramer did. But he was probably as good as any guard we've ever had.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

PackerTraxx
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Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

Starr is one of my all time favorite. But Unitas was quite a bit better. Others may/probably were. Lombardi and the supporting cast made a huge difference.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

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Starr is one of my all time favorite. But Unitas was quite a bit better. Others may/probably were. Lombardi and the supporting cast made a huge difference.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx

Starr had a 80.5 career rating and a 104.8 post season rating. Unitas had a 78.2 career and a 68.9 post.

Few stepped up their game in the post season like Starr did. When it matters most.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

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