sschind
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10 years ago

The mistake on the original list is that Jim Taylor was a FB.

60's football consisted of a QB, a RB and a FB,

Jim Brown was a FB, if not for taylor playing the same time as Brown, or if Brown had never played, people would probably be talking about Taylor as they do Brown.

Jim Taylor was that good.

Paul Horning was the RB, and IMHO, should be on the list as best RB.

Hard to believe that Hornung could play qb also, was the PK, and when not running the ball, was a damn good blocker for Taylor.

Lists like these, especially for a team like Green Bay, should be split into 3 era's, pre 1950, 1950 - 1980, post 1980.

The evolution of the game makes it hard to compare players , especially if you haven't personally saw them play.

I'm just happy there have been so many great players who have played at lambeau so there can be disagreements about this lis.


Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Somebody on nfl.com also pointed out that Taylor was a FB and therefore the list should be Taylor and Hornung. Again, I wouldn't disagree with that at all.

sschind
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10 years ago

on your 90's on list,
Favre gets the call today. In 5 years I may change my vote.

TE goes to West. JerMike could have taken the spot IF he lived up to all his hype and expectations.

Verba played more OT than OG. But he played both and it is your list so I won't complain. Personally I would vote for Mrs Colledge. Or not.

I liked KGB as a blitz specialist. He didn't perform as well when he was an every down player.

Barnett for the most part was ILB.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I'd put Favre on over Rodgers at this point as well but I do think I will be changing my mind in 5 years. At least I hope Rodgers keeps playing well enough to make it so.

I'd probably take West as well, I was more thinking on what most young people would think and many won't remember West. I'm not a young person, I remember him.

I wasn't all too sure on Verba's or Barnett's main position, I just picked a couple of guys I thought most people would remember.



sschind
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10 years ago

I would put Bob Brown above Gilbert Brown at DT. (Though there has to be someone above both. Did Lionel Aldridge play DT or DE?)

One DB that never seems to get enough love from Packer fans is Willie Buchanon. Much as I am a fan of Sir Charles, I think Buchanon was better.

And I would pick Donny Anderson at punter. His average was tiny by today's standards, but he reinvented the position. Before Anderson it was all about length; he shifted the emphasis to "hang time". 63 punts in 1967. Total return yards: 22. That's about the length of the football per punt. That, IMO, is a punter.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Willie Buchanon would be a very good choice as well

sschind
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10 years ago

love this post.
You can win games with both of those teams.

I will have to put a little thought into it but off the top of my head I can see why Lofton as the Hofer gets the nod over Sharpe. That said without injuries Sterling would have had an excellent chance to make The Hall too. I give Sharpe the slot in a close vote where we have to count the hanging chads.

Digger is a fine choice. He clogged the middle and stopped the run. He may not have had sexy stats but he was a beast in his prime. Sack antics aside.

Even though he didn't play in GB for most of his career I would go for Jan Stenerud over Longwell. It is a nice luxury to have two qualified kickers.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Lofton was really my first "favorite" Packer player (well actually it was Steve Odom but he wouldn't make the list) so I am a bit biased on him over Sharpe. I do agree that had Sterling not gotten injured he most likely would be in the HOF now and I think if he stayed with the Packers he would still hold all the Packers receiving records by a fair margin. Still, I wouldn't disagree too strenuously on Sharpe over Lofton. IMO it's probably the closest vote.

texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
Buckeye, you beat me to it about Taylor being a "true" fullback. It makes more sense to have two RBs anyway, considering the long history of split backs and the current de-emphasis of fullbacks in the I.

I disagree about the worthlessness of such lists. It's fun, and SOME old-timers appreciate the modern, while SOME young have a sense of history.

I would make the following CORRECTIONS - since I'll put my knowledge and memory of the Packers glory years WAY above the author of the article.

Punter: Masthay is better already than Hentrich, although I'm not so sure Boyd Dowler wasn't better than both.

Kicker: Don Chandler was a lot better than either Longwell or Stenerud (in his Packer years).

QB: Dakota found his daily acorn. Starr was a hero of my childhood, but he is NOT on the same level as Favre or Rodgers. For now, I'd put Favre as #1, but with a probable change to Rodgers by the time he is done.

RB: No love for John Brockington? I'd go with him slightly over Hornung, and of course, Jim Taylor as the top RB.

WR: This may be the toughest one of all - the second after Hutson. Nobody mentioned Dowler and Dale. I'd have to go with Lofton, though - way better than Sharpe. Driver has to be way above Walker in the recent era if performance is the criterion.

TE: Unlike most positions, we never had a superstar there. I'd have to agree, Coffman - by a small margin over Ron Kramer.

O-Line: Ringo at Center, obviously Jerry Kramer and Forest Gregg at Guard and Tackle. Beyond that, I'd take Gale Gillingham as the other Guard. Cal Hubbard was a baseball umpire by the time I was old enough to know anything, but I understand he would be deserving of that other spot.

D-Line: White and Davis works for me at DE. We never had a superstar DT in my lifetime. Jordan would probably get one spot. I don't really like Gilbert Brown for the other spot, but I can't think of anybody else either. Wade, Aldridge was a DE, as was Bob Brown.

MLB: Nobody comes close to Nitschke.

OLB: What? Nobody remembers the Mad Stork, Ted Hendrixx? He's my top pick. Tim Harris, the six guns guy, was pretty good too, but I'd put Clay Matthews ahead of him and well ahead of Dave Robinson.

Corner: Herb Adderley for sure. I'd go along with Willie Buchanon by a small margin over Woodson for the second spot. Tim Lewis would have been that second if he hadn't gotten hurt. I didn't realize until I Googled him that he is the same guy who coaches the Atlanta secondary.

Safety: Nobody beats Willie Wood. I'd put Nick Collins ahead of Butler if ability is the criterion, but on sum total of career, Butler comes out ahead.

No Coach was mentioned. Does anybody have a better one in mind than Vince? I sure don't.
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