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Greg C.
13 years ago
Yeah, it's a pretty good list. I would take Starr over Favre, but it's apples and oranges. As porky wrote, the fact that they played in different eras makes it hard to compare them. Also, I think that while Starr was great for longer, Favre was a more dominant player in his prime. You could say the same thing about Lofton vs. Sharpe, but at least Sharpe's dominance ended because of injury, while Favre's level of play declined. So I'll take Sharpe, but you could flip a coin on that one.

Only one current player (Woodson) is on the team, but there are three who have a shot if they sustain their level of play for a long time: Clay Matthews, B.J. Raji, and Aaron Rodgers. It will be toughest for Rodgers because he is up against two all-time greats, but I think Raji could beat out Henry Jordan or Gilbert Brown and Matthews could easily beat out Mike Douglass, who was a good player, but not a great one. I would love to be having those discussions a few years down the road!
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

I wonder if JerMichael Finley could be on the list if he plays a full season  or two.


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zombieslayer
13 years ago

I wonder if JerMichael Finley could be on the list if he plays a full season or two.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I have a feeling Finley won't be a Packer 2 years from now.
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13 years ago

I have a feeling Finley won't be a Packer 2 years from now.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



That'll be okay, though. By then the Packers will have their third three-peat.

And he'll take the money and run, and miss the first-ever NFL four-peat.

:)

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zombieslayer
13 years ago

That'll be okay, though. By then the Packers will have their third three-peat.

And he'll take the money and run, and miss the first-ever NFL four-peat.

:)

Originally Posted by: Wade 



And of all the ironies, he won't make the Hall with everyone else. 😉
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
I might even include Cecil Isbell over Favre.

For spite.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
The way I see it is, the Greats were the greatest of their eras. Favre is in the top 15 among his contemporaries but only barely. Star was the best of his. Rodgers is and Herber was.

I looked at the first three years of some QBs that played for quite a while. Manning, Brady, Brees, Favre, Montana and a few others. To a man, they all were not their best their first 3 years as starters. They all got 5-10 points better after that point. If Rodgers follows the historical precedent, he would end up with a career QB rating around 105.

You also have to remember that if you get Favre, you don't just get him at his best. You also get the INTs and the heartbreaking melt downs in the playoffs. That is why Starr, Rodgers and Herber are much better choices.
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PackerTraxx
13 years ago
Starr and Favre are arguable. Favre never had tha weapons Starr had respective to their era. Even Wolf has said that is his one regret with the Packers. I'm glad we had both.

Sharpe and Lofton. I give the edge to Lofton. Wish both would have had longer careers in GB. If Sharpe would not have had his condition Favre, Freeman and the Packers would have been even better.

One player worth mentioning is Gale Gillingham. He never got the recogniton he deserved because he played on some bad teams and Little and Upshaw became HOF player when teams saw what Jerry Kramer did. But he was probably as good as any guard we've ever had.
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PackerTraxx
13 years ago

The way I see it is, the Greats were the greatest of their eras. Favre is in the top 15 among his contemporaries but only barely. Star was the best of his. Rodgers is and Herber was.

I looked at the first three years of some QBs that played for quite a while. Manning, Brady, Brees, Favre, Montana and a few others. To a man, they all were not their best their first 3 years as starters. They all got 5-10 points better after that point. If Rodgers follows the historical precedent, he would end up with a career QB rating around 105.

You also have to remember that if you get Favre, you don't just get him at his best. You also get the INTs and the heartbreaking melt downs in the playoffs. That is why Starr, Rodgers and Herber are much better choices.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 




Starr is one of my all time favorite. But Unitas was quite a bit better. Others may/probably were. Lombardi and the supporting cast made a huge difference.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

Starr is one of my all time favorite. But Unitas was quite a bit better. Others may/probably were. Lombardi and the supporting cast made a huge difference.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



Starr had a 80.5 career rating and a 104.8 post season rating. Unitas had a 78.2 career and a 68.9 post.

Few stepped up their game in the post season like Starr did. When it matters most.
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