Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Desmond Howard made a helluva an impact with the kickoffs at the 35 yard line. :)

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Good point.

I must say though that the rule changes are stupid. Why change something that's not a problem?

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It was done to create more excitement as returns were/are viewed as exciting plays. They figured moving the kickoff's back 5 yards would give the returner 5 more yards of opportunity to produce a big play.

I think Joshua Cribbs, Devin Hester and Dante Hall all benefited from it, even though I think Hester is superior to any returner I've seen in the last 20 years.
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Since69
13 years ago
Ehhh, I disagree. All moving the kickoff is going to do is result in more touchbacks. Which will (supposedly) result in fewer injuries...

{Edit: Wait a minute... never mind. You were talking about when they moved it from the 35 to the 30 in 1994.... gotcha.}
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nerdmann
13 years ago
They'll find a good returner who also plays WR, so they can ditch Jones/DD/Swain. One of those three.
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coltonja
13 years ago

They'll find a good returner who also plays WR, so they can ditch Jones/Donald Driver/Swain. One of those three.

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Yeah they'll probably ditch Driver. He doesn't make an impact anymore. Plus, from what I've gathered, fans don't like him.
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13 years ago
As long as the KR is 320 pounds and can play OG, what's wrong with going after a KR?
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13 years ago

Desmond Howard made a helluva an impact with the kickoffs at the 35 yard line. :)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Good point.

I must say though that the rule changes are stupid. Why change something that's not a problem?

"zombieslayer" wrote:



It was done to create more excitement as returns were/are viewed as exciting plays. They figured moving the kickoff's back 5 yards would give the returner 5 more yards of opportunity to produce a big play.

I think Joshua Cribbs, Devin Hester and Dante Hall all benefited from it, even though I think Hester is superior to any returner I've seen in the last 20 years.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



This is an interesting question. How good would Travis Williams have been if he had people kicking from the 30 or the 35 instead of the 40?

1967 average (NFL record): 41.06 yards per return.
Career (actually only 5th): 27.46 (Sayers was 30.56!)

Hester: career 25.1 (best year, 2010, 35.6)
Cribbs: career 25.8 (best year, 2007, 30.7)
Hall: career 23.8 (best year, 2003, 25.9)
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gbguy20
13 years ago

{Edit: Wait a minute... never mind. You were talking about when they moved it from the 35 to the 30 in 1994.... gotcha.}

"Since69" wrote:



If the above is true then the below is false. Can we get a firm date on when kickoffs were moved to the 30?

Desmond Howard made a helluva an impact with the kickoffs at the 35 yard line. :)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



edit: found a source (desmond howard was not a packer until after it was moved to the 30).

http://www.thefanhub.com/817/elsewhere/nfl/the-real-impact-of-the-nfl%E2%80%99s-new-kickoff-rule.html 

(quoting only part of the article):

Fortunately, theres a historical precedent for this kind of change. Before the 1994 season, the NFL moved the kickoff from the 35 to the 30-yard line. In 1993, touchbacks accounted for 26.55 percent (536 out of 2,019) of all kicks and only four kickoffs were returned for touchdowns. After the kickoff shifted to the 30 in 1994, touchbacks were reduced to 7.01 percent (146 out of 2,084) of all kicks, and suddenly, 16 kickoffs were returned for touchdowns. So if the past is any indicator, expect a marked decline in the number of returns (nearly 20 percent) and special teams touchdowns.

What is even scarier about the new rules impact on returns is the improvement in kickers over the last 15 years. There were 416 touchbacks this past season, which accounted for 16.38 percent of all kickoffs, over a nine percent increase since 1994. More significantly, the best kicking team (the New York Giants) in 1993 averaged 64.7 yards per kickoff, with 55.7 percent of its kicks ending as touchbacks. This past season, exactly half (16 out of 32) of the entire leagues teams averaged equal to or longer kickoffs than the 1993 Giants. Isnt it rational to assume then, that the leagues average touchbacks will be well over 27 percent, the number set in 1993?



Pretty interesting read.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
People are not accounting for the change in the T. It was lowered significantly changing the trajectory of the kicks. Longer lower kicks gave more room for a run back.

Moving the kicks back to the 30 was only half of it.
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13 years ago
Yep, the tee makes a big difference too.
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13 years ago

They'll find a good returner who also plays WR, so they can ditch Jones/Donald Driver/Swain. One of those three.

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Yeah they'll probably ditch Driver. He doesn't make an impact anymore. Plus, from what I've gathered, fans don't like him.

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Uncle Teddy sure screwed the pooch when he failed to draft Crabtree. :roll:
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