Packers cut AJ Hawk· Page 6

Pack93z
Select Member

14 years ago

I still like Barnett. And I'm hoping they'll at least try him at OLB before dealing him. I really think he could do some damage there.

My guess is they'll trade him during the draft, though.

"Since69" wrote:

I don't... and here is why.

First.. Nick has never been able to take on blocks effectively and consistently and hold the point of attack. The OLBers have to be able to hold that edge effectively and turn the plays back in.. I highly doubt Nick in a 3-4 scheme would be able to play the run effectively on the edge.

Second.. Barnett has little to no pass rush skills to defeat a blocker and create his own pressure. He gets home on the rush when the scheme affords him a relatively clean look.. seldom is he able to create that pressure on his own. To be fair though.. it is not like he has had an overabundance of opportunities from the inside. That said.. what I have seen.. my opinion is he would struggle there.

So in conclusion.. he wouldn't be overly effective as a pass rusher and would more than likely struggle vs the run. Two strikes in my opinion.. two major ones at that.

Nick would be the most effective, IMO, as a wil in the 4-3..

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

dhazer
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#52

I think a perfect trade partner would be the Denver Broncos, they are switching back to a 4-3 defense and would like to have a vet in the middle of that. I think Barnett acted up this year because Zero left Green Bay and now sees the Broncos switching to a 4-3 which was a better fit for him. So he figures if he acts up he can be reunited with Zero in Denver 🙂

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

wpr
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#53

"dhazer" wrote:

makes sense to me.

DakotaT
Select Member

14 years ago

#54

I think you're all fucked in the head. 🙂 We're not getting anything for an injured 30 year old linebacker with 12M owed over the next 2 years. Mr. Barnett is getting cut and jumping the border over to Minnesota where he will blow numerous tackles as a member of the Queens.

If we got a 4th round pick, I would be truly amazed.

nerdmann
Premier Member

14 years ago

#55

"DakotaT" wrote:

They were nice enough to take Sharper off our hands.
Still think they could swap picks and Barnett with someone and move up in one of the top three rounds.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Kingkoopa
Registered

14 years ago

#56

I'm thrilled he is back. Hawk played a lot better next to Bishop the second half of the season. Maybe next year he could have the best year of his career playing next to bish the whole year. Barnett better watch his back, the turk is coming.

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musccy
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#57

"DakotaT" wrote:

Very true...if the we could get ANY draft pick for an oft-injured, over-the-hill, diva LB then Ted should jump on that as fast as he can.

However, washed up, underperforming divas do seem to feel at home in Minny!

warhawk
Senior Member

14 years ago

#58

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AkUD1VaG9iEL5Cm7fYt1I4dDubYF?slug=ap-packers-hawk

Here you go boys.

"The train is leaving the station."

TexasPackerFan
Registered

14 years ago

#59

AJ Hawk has resigned with the Pack in a 5 year deal 🙂

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Cheesey
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#60

All the "hand wringing" was for nothing.
Once again, Ted got it done.

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