Wisconsin Scott Walker??· Page 7

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#61

porky88
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#62

How much money will this exactly save?

I'm 100% sold that this is as much about politics as anything is, but it is also about saving money and fixing the budget. All you hear is politics everywhere you look, but nobody seems to have a figure. How much does this plan save?

Also, I listened to Walker talk a few days ago. He says that getting rid of collective bargaining is necessary because unions would just negotiate their pensions and health care back to what it was prior to the passage of the bill.

Do you have to erase them permanently? Why doesnt he temporary suspend the rights to negotiate on those two specific issues?

http://www.row12.com/

DakotaT
Select Member

14 years ago

#63

Unions are the enemy of Republican business men. They want to be in ultimate control of a negotiation process and give the employees crumbs in which they will determine. But the bad thing about unions is that they negotiate wage and benefits in the good years that are above and beyond anything sustainable; and then when times are bad, they are unwilling to give back anything.

I'm sorry but an assemlbly line worker for UAW who has a simple task to perform is not a $30 an hour man. He is a way overpaid $12 an hour man at best.

Unions would not be a necessary animal in todays work market if the business owner didn't take the position that workers are a dime a dozen. If you've ever owned your own businees you'll understand quickly that workers most definitely aren't a dime a dozen, in fact if you are lucky enough to find a reliable worker, you take care of that man no matter what it takes.

Porforis
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#64

"DakotaT" wrote:

Thank you for being a reasonable person in a world full of polarized partisan hacks, DakotaT. The truth is always somewhere in the middle. Unions aren't evil, corporations aren't evil.

musccy
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#65

Porky - 300 million seems to be the number that keeps being cited. I don't know if that's per year, for the 2011-2013 budget or what that means, but somehow 300 million is being thrown around.

What people are going to love in all of this, though, is that he hasn't even proposed the budget yet (March 1)...this is hardly even the beginning of his attack on the public sector. Rumors of month-long closures of state departments, 900 million in additional education cuts, 20% tuition hikes and who knows what else is down the pipeline.

DakotaT
Select Member

14 years ago

#66

Thank you for being a reasonable person in a world full of polarized partisan hacks, DakotaT. The truth is always somewhere in the middle. Unions aren't evil, corporations aren't evil.

"Porforis" wrote:

Thanks man, but I really am a conflicted person at this point in my life. See I do believe in the Republican party in that you work for what you get and you extract from life what you put into it. But as I've grown older, I've realized that the Republican way is predicated on on a fixed game in that all the rules, that I was brought up to believe, are heavily favored to the offspring of the upper mid class and wealthy.

What I truly would like to see is an even playing field for everyone from birth, and then each person could earn the lives they have instead of some being entitled to their predestened lives of leisure, whereas others struggle from the woom to the grave because of the decisions and/or race and culture of their parents. Maybe I feel differently than most Republicans because I did pull myself up by the bootsraps instead of having all the advantages, but I do see a need for social programs to help those in need, when so many others don't give a shit.

TwinkieGorilla
Member

14 years ago

#67

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:

Trippster
Registered

14 years ago

#68

The man has 3.6 billion to cut over the next two or three years. No question this is the first step.

His problem is not that the unions need to be broke, but that the unions take so long to negotiate, time of which he doesn't feel he has.

Also, how much respect can you have for a union who honestly feels that Viagra is something that should be covered as a perk? (yes, this was a big issue last year with the teachers union in Wisconsin)

"Let Your Light Shine!"

longtimefan
Registered

14 years ago

#69

Tripp I posted that on last page..Doyle and Unions tried for 17 months to get a new deal but failed

Walker was suppose to get it done in 2 weeks

IronMan
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#70

So whats going to happen to all of these doctors that are giving out fake doctor excuses? I think they should have their liscences revoked.

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

dfosterf (11h) : There will be a mini camp practice Thursday.

Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : He's been sporting a ring for a while now. It's probably Madonna.

Martha Careful (10-Jun) : We only do the tea before whoopee, it relaxes me.

wpr (10-Jun) : That's awesome Martha.

Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : How's the ayahuasca tea he makes, Martha?

Martha Careful (10-Jun) : Turns out he like older women

Martha Careful (10-Jun) : I wasn't supposed to say anything, but yes the word is out and we are happy 😂😂😂

Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : I might be late on this but Aaron Rodgers is now married

Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : Well he can always ask his brother for pointers

Zero2Cool (10-Jun) : Bo Melton taking some reps at CB as well as WR

Zero2Cool (10-Jun) : key transactions coming today at 3pm that will consume more cap in 2025

Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : Jaire played in just 34 of a possible 68 games since the start of the 2021 season

Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : reported, but not expected to practice

Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : Jenkins has REPORTED for mandatory camp

Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : I really thought he'd play for Packers.

buckeyepackfan (9-Jun) : Packers releasing Jaire Alexander.

Mucky Tundra (8-Jun) : (Context: he wants his defense to create turnovers)

Mucky Tundra (8-Jun) : Giants DC Shane Bowen tells players to “be a damn pirate."

dfosterf (6-Jun) : Semper fi !

Cheesey (6-Jun) : This is why I have so much respect for those that have gone through battles

Cheesey (6-Jun) : I can't even imagine what that would have been like

wpr (6-Jun) : "Come on, you sons of bitches. Do you want to live forever?"

wpr (6-Jun) : Facing a line of machine guns 2 time medal of Honor recipient, First Sergeant Dan Daly told his men,

wpr (6-Jun) : Another detachment went into the Belleau Wood.

wpr (6-Jun) : On the 6th the Marines took Hill 142 but suffered terrible losses.

wpr (6-Jun) : It’s time to remember dfoster’s Marine brothers in Belleau Wood. The battle went on from June 1-26. Nearly 10,000 casualties.

packerfanoutwest (6-Jun) : Nick Collins and Morgan Burnett have signed with the PACK

packerfanoutwest (6-Jun) : he won't be wearing #12, maybe he will wear number two

packerfanoutwest (6-Jun) : He will fail this season, should have retired

Mucky Tundra (5-Jun) : Thus the cycle of Hall of Fame Packer QBs going to the Jets and then the Vikings is broken

bboystyle (5-Jun) : Rodgers to steelers on 1 year contract

Zero2Cool (5-Jun) : It's the cycle of civilizations. Get lazier, lazier, softer, softer and vanish.

Martha Careful (5-Jun) : great point. every aspect of society, including art, culture and sports has degraded.

dfosterf (4-Jun) : Green Bay sweep meant something to society about stopping pure excellence. We have the tush push now

dfosterf (4-Jun) : We old Martha.

Martha Careful (4-Jun) : *front four

Martha Careful (4-Jun) : Re frout four, I wish we had some Green "People Eaters" or a fearsome foursome

dfosterf (4-Jun) : *directions*

dfosterf (4-Jun) : Just don't ask him for driving direct

dfosterf (4-Jun) : Jim Marshall was an all-time great DE for the Purple People Eaters. Didn't like him. That's a compliment. RIP

Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : ooppppss

Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : “Kenny Clark played all of last season hurt by the way and got surgery to fix it in January”

Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : @ByRyanWood How much did the injury affect him last fall? “A lot.”

Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : @ByRyanWood Kenny Clark said he had foot surgery in January. Injured his foot in opener against Eagles and played through it all year.

Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : Golden is wearing guardian cap again. I bet he plays with it on too.

Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : All the stuff I'm reading from Lions fans are pointing at his toe; he more or less has permanent turf toe in one of his big toes

dfosterf (3-Jun) : Kenny played through it, and a shame he gets little credit for that, imo

dfosterf (3-Jun) : Big men. I hope it's not the undoing of Kenny Clark

dfosterf (3-Jun) : Probably his toe. Pretty much a great center. Toe injuries are brutal to bigen

Mucky Tundra (2-Jun) : Lions All-Pro C Frank Ragnow retires

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2025 Packers Schedule

Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM

COMMANDERS

Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM

Browns

Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM

Cowboys

Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM

BENGALS

Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM

Cardinals

Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM

Steelers

Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM

PANTHERS

Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM

EAGLES

Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM

Giants

Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM

Broncos

Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM

Bears

Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM

RAVENS

Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM

Vikings