Exactly. Unions set up a system in which it's absurdly difficult to replace ineptitude.

I'm no Scott Walker supporter, but I hope he does bust the unions. It would be delightful to watch all these pampered public servants scurrying around like cockroaches now that their sweet benefits packages have been exposed to public scrutiny.

They'll finally find out what it's like to be in public service without the perks of a union.

You know, kind of what it's like to be in the military.

P.S. My wife's a teacher. We stand to lose from this as much as anyone.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

It's always fun watching people who like to say "it's not about the money" squawk when money issues get raised.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

Walker never even approached the unions for an arbitration meeting. He tried to push something through Madison real fast, and it blew up in his face.
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"dhpackr" wrote:

Madison -- The leaders of the largest labor union for state workers want to wrap up labor contracts with the state ahead of Governor-elect Scott Walker taking office.

Gov. Jim Doyle and labor unions like the Wisconsin State Employees Union have been working to finish the 2009-11 contracts, which are now more than 17 months overdue.

Doyle and union officials have emphasized the contracts include no pay raises and have said the administration has a legal obligation to keep bargaining with unions in good faith.

It has been widely assumed that one reason unions are seeking to finish the contracts ending on June 30 is that Walker campaigned on cutting benefits to state employees and wants to follow through on that pledge early next year.

A November letter sent to WSEU members and obtained Monday by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel appears to confirm that.

We, along with the bargaining teams, felt that it was important that we have a contract in place before the incoming Walker administration takes over, reads the letter by WSEU president Robert McLinn and executive director Marty Beil.

WSEU spokesman Bob Allen confirmed the letter was authentic and said it spoke for itself. The letter notes that a vote by the Legislature to approve the contracts could come as early as next week. After that, the Democratically controlled Legislature would have little chance to vote on labor contracts before Republicans take over Jan. 3 after the holidays.

So far the vote has not been scheduled and the proposed WSEU contract and some others must still be approved by rank and file union members.

People just do not understand that Walker can not just decide I do not want a union anymore. Therefore will pass a bill as quickly as possible, and break up the union.

The only people against the demonstrations are those who are not in a union. Then they whine and snivel...well I have to pay for my pension, and I do not get sick days, and my pay sucks, and my working conditions suck, so I do not want anybody else to have great pay and benefits.

One joker on this forum is so lost, he really has no clue what is really at stake here.

Did Walker even approach the unions and say, really the state is going broke ( which is a topic for much debate), so I think we should go through arbitration and negotiate a new contract, that may be beneficial to both parties.

No, he just tries to force his ideas down everyone's throat and it came right back at him.

Now Illinois, Ohio, Mich, Iowa unions are all getting involved.

Guess we're all crazy bastards that feel if you have a signed contract, it needs to be honored, and you, can't just say, its to expensive, so I'll just change it.

The argument, well my pay sucks, my benefits suck, so everyone else should suck to, is outright UNAMERICAN!

If you had a union contract you could negotiate a deal, without it, you have nothing, and can be easily replaced by the next avg joe.

"dhpackr" wrote: