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14 years ago

He could even go back and apologize to Chmura, because if you think Favre was doing anything different than Chewy was at the time, you'd be mistaken.

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Oh really? Please fill in with the details.
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14 years ago
On this whole topic, I really want to say, "Who cares?"

It'd be nice if they got along, but shit, it would be nice if everyone got along. Truth is, some people rub others the wrong way. You aren't FORCED to be friends with your co-workers. Sure, it can help in situations. So what is the big deal? Stupid article. Pointless premise. Move along. I'll be happy when I can read any article about either QB without the author feeling the need to bring up the other and this supposed "blood feud." Lazy journalism is all it is.
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14 years ago

I thought it was Driver right away. And btw, there IS no guarantee Donald Driver will be back next year. Could be Tauscher too. Both were "Favre guys."
I also think Rodgers does use this whole "proving people wrong" thing a bit too much. He dropped in the draft. Everyone talked shit. Then the situation with Brett. It just seems like he holds onto it a bit much. But then, why shouldn't he? I don't fault him for that, per se.
Favre should start by apologizing to Ted Thompson for trying to dictate to Ted Thompson how he should do his job, who he should hire as coach, what personell he should acquire. He should then apologize to Mike McCarthy for undermining the coach, the offensive coordinator and trying to dictate what the offensive philosophy should be and what plays should be run.
He should then apologize to the entire franchise and fan base for spreading the playbook around to opposing teams. He was like a bitter 14 year old girl.
He could even go back and apologize to Chmura, because if you think Favre was doing anything different than Chewy was at the time, you'd be mistaken.

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I think no I KNOW Tauch is not a Favre guy

Got good insight that when Brett was traded---Mark was at a bar and pretended to slam a book shut and said..We finally closed the book on Brett

And you shouldnt toss out stuff like Chewy and say Brett did it too, w/o real proof...

Mind you Chewy was with high school girls..Not WOMEN which is what I think you were getting at
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14 years ago
As Packer fans we have been blessed with 2 world class QB's back to back. We need to cherish this. I think it is time to let the Brett crap die and move foward. We need to put the number 4 in the ring of honor and retire his number. Time will let this happen but even some of the other great Packers in history left to play and coach for other teams...{aka Lombarbi... Reggie White etc.}
I think this is just another piece of garbage article trying to pump life into a never ending debate.
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I thought it was Driver right away. And btw, there IS no guarantee Donald Driver will be back next year. Could be Tauscher too. Both were "Favre guys."
I also think Rodgers does use this whole "proving people wrong" thing a bit too much. He dropped in the draft. Everyone talked shit. Then the situation with Brett. It just seems like he holds onto it a bit much. But then, why shouldn't he? I don't fault him for that, per se.
Favre should start by apologizing to Ted Thompson for trying to dictate to Ted Thompson how he should do his job, who he should hire as coach, what personell he should acquire. He should then apologize to Mike McCarthy for undermining the coach, the offensive coordinator and trying to dictate what the offensive philosophy should be and what plays should be run.
He should then apologize to the entire franchise and fan base for spreading the playbook around to opposing teams. He was like a bitter 14 year old girl.
He could even go back and apologize to Chmura, because if you think Favre was doing anything different than Chewy was at the time, you'd be mistaken.

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I think no I KNOW Tauch is not a Favre guy

Got good insight that when Brett was traded---Mark was at a bar and pretended to slam a book shut and said..We finally closed the book on Brett

And you shouldnt toss out stuff like Chewy and say Brett did it too, w/o real proof...

Mind you Chewy was with high school girls..Not WOMEN which is what I think you were getting at

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Favre did plenty. And Chewy was never a pillhead.
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14 years ago
Please don't click on the link. This is irresponsible journalism at its worst. This guy is making shit up.

Brett & Aaron get along just fine. The Favres were rooting for the Packers and Brett said Aaron's the best QB in the NFL. Likewise, there is no bad blood for Brett from Aaron.
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14 years ago

Please don't click on the link. This is irresponsible journalism at its worst. This guy is making shit up.

Brett & Aaron get along just fine. The Favres were rooting for the Packers and Brett said Aaron's the best QB in the NFL. Likewise, there is no bad blood for Brett from Aaron.

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Brittany was rooting for Philly to beat GB

Brett never said Rodgers was best in NFL

It was a odd comment and I think misunderstood..I am under impression he was talking about the q/b left in playoffs Rodgers was the best one

In an e-mail response to ESPN's Ed Werder, Favre said Monday that the Packers are "by far" the best team left in the NFL playoffs.

"[Packers QB] Aaron [Rodgers] is the best QB and the receiving corps is the best ever, maybe," Favre said in the e-mail. "

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14 years ago


I do believe there are no laws that state an offensive player can not communicate with a defensive player, especially one that was on PUP for a month an half after being pissed off he didn't get a long term deal. I could be mistaken, as I am often.

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It's like...here's my point ---> *


























* <--- And here's you.


What I posited has nothing to do with team position and everything to do with who has ever appeared close enough with Favre to be having the kind of "chat" which would lead to these kinds of statements. Also, who says this is about creating a rift or is coming from a negative place at all? Maybe it's just words, stated matter-of-factly, and then buttered up for the paper? Gee, the media wouldn't ever do something like that, would they?!

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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doddpower
14 years ago

I also think Rodgers does use this whole "proving people wrong" thing a bit too much. He dropped in the draft. Everyone talked shit. Then the situation with Brett. It just seems like he holds onto it a bit much.

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I don't think Rodger's uses any other angle other than wanting to be great just to be great. It's the media that attempts to frame these stories of redemption, if you will. Rodger's has little control over that.

Some of the hype surrounding Favre is the same issue. Of course, he has done little in the past 5 years to stop it. Point being, Rodger's just wants to be a great QB, not to prove anyone wrong. He's already done that and did in his 1st year in my opinion. But of course the media will keep grasping for some dramatic story as to why he wants to be great.
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14 years ago
Aaron Rodgers does like to prove people wrong. He's said it a few times. He uses that as motivation, a chip on his shoulder if you will. When he dropped to 24, he said he wanted to prove the Packers made a good choice, told Ted he wouldn't regret that pick and he'd do what he could to prove others should have taken him sooner.

I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to prove others wrong if it's in a positive way. It might not be healthy, but it's a lot how I've lived my life. No one has ever said i could do anything, other than fail miserably.
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14 years ago
Brett's impact on the Packers is in the past.. sure he will mend some fences and may or may not sign some sort of marketing deal with the Packers.

What he did upon the field will not be discounted nor minimized go forward.


But the amount of "juice" Brett has in Green Bay and within the Packers organization will never be the same prior to the 2008 season with all that has taken place post that Giants game.

And the relationship of Brett and Aaron will probably never be exposed in the public light for years to come. Just rewind to the on field embrace and words that per Rodgers will remain "private", it didn't look to be confrontational or bitter.. so for us the fans, that should be enough.

Fact is.. it is Aaron's time in GB.. and the more distance put between the two the less the media will continue to hound upon the topic.

Their relationship isn't any of our damn business.. nor the presses.

They are both grown adults and I will let them worry about that..
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14 years ago


I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to prove others wrong if it's in a positive way.

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I agree with Zero here.. as I do it all the time. I even hold myself accountable to my own thoughts or perceptions of myself.. I harness that all the time... fuel to the fire so to speak.

I think all highly competitive people are wired this way.. it just varies on how it impact their relationships with others.
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14 years ago

Far too articulate and grammatically correct for Bigby (and 90% of the league, unfortunately). I'm thinking it's an offensive lineman or another QB...

And that said, I don't really care. Brent is a memory. And not a particularly fond one. Kampman and Harris handled their departure like men: classy and grateful to the team. Brent joined the enemy like a vengeful, butt-hurt child.

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Huge Huge difference. Kampman and Harris were let go or not resigned, Brett was traded and couldn't pick where he wanted to go (even though he worked the system and got where he wanted anyways). To me that makes a ton of difference.

But its all the past now and who really cares Brett we thank you for all the great years in Green Bay and the things you did for this team and we will see his number in the ring. Some people are still butt hurt over him going to the Vikes I say so what, I didn't care where he played.
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doddpower
14 years ago

Aaron Rodgers does like to prove people wrong. He's said it a few times. He uses that as motivation, a chip on his shoulder if you will. When he dropped to 24, he said he wanted to prove the Packers made a good choice, told Ted he wouldn't regret that pick and he'd do what he could to prove others should have taken him sooner.

I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to prove others wrong if it's in a positive way. It might not be healthy, but it's a lot how I've lived my life. No one has ever said i could do anything, other than fail miserably.

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My main point was that he proved people wrong long ago. To most of the people on this board, we could tell throughout his first season that this dude was legit. Sure, the record didn't show it, but close observers could see there was much more at fault than Rodger's alone.

I just think he's long ago proven the 'haters' wrong if you will, and at this point, he just wants to prove to people that he truly is one of the greats. He'll never make everyone believe that but the few that weren't won over a season or so ago should definitely be now. I'm not sure what else the dude needs to prove other than becoming a multiple super bowl winner, which isn't necessary for him to be "one of the all time greats" at this point anyway.
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14 years ago

My main point was that he proved people wrong long ago. To most of the people on this board, we could tell throughout his first season that this dude was legit. Sure, the record didn't show it, but close observers could see there was much more at fault than Rodger's alone.

I just think he's long ago proven the 'haters' wrong if you will, and at this point, he just wants to prove to people that he truly is one of the greats. He'll never make everyone believe that but the few that weren't won over a season or so ago should definitely be now. I'm not sure what else the dude needs to prove other than becoming a multiple super bowl winner, which isn't necessary for him to be "one of the all time greats" at this point anyway.

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Reminded me of something Aaron Rodgers said, lol.

(on no longer being overlooked)
I guess I ran out of motivation, huh? You know what, Im always looking for challenges. I think the challenge now goes to repeating, scrutinizing this season, finding ways to get better. Obviously, being a perfectionist and having a quarterback coach who is as well, theres going to be plenty of time to work on things and plenty of things to work on.

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I thought it was Driver right away. And btw, there IS no guarantee Donald Driver will be back next year. Could be Tauscher too. Both were "Favre guys."
I also think Rodgers does use this whole "proving people wrong" thing a bit too much. He dropped in the draft. Everyone talked shit. Then the situation with Brett. It just seems like he holds onto it a bit much. But then, why shouldn't he? I don't fault him for that, per se.
Favre should start by apologizing to Ted Thompson for trying to dictate to Ted Thompson how he should do his job, who he should hire as coach, what personell he should acquire. He should then apologize to Mike McCarthy for undermining the coach, the offensive coordinator and trying to dictate what the offensive philosophy should be and what plays should be run.
He should then apologize to the entire franchise and fan base for spreading the playbook around to opposing teams. He was like a bitter 14 year old girl.
He could even go back and apologize to Chmura, because if you think Favre was doing anything different than Chewy was at the time, you'd be mistaken.

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I think no I KNOW Tauch is not a Favre guy

Got good insight that when Brett was traded---Mark was at a bar and pretended to slam a book shut and said..We finally closed the book on Brett

And you shouldnt toss out stuff like Chewy and say Brett did it too, w/o real proof...

Mind you Chewy was with high school girls..Not WOMEN which is what I think you were getting at

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Favre did plenty. And Chewy was never a pillhead.

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He did plenty of what? Be a man and put your words into a post about what exactly you are insinuating. And do I understand that you are saying a man with an addiction to pain killers who did something about it is even comparable to the type of evil that Chmura represented? Or are you just back to being a troll for trolls' sake?
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
"Evil"? My God, the hyperbole -- devoid, of course, of all evidence -- has started already.

I'm sitting this one out.
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"Evil"? My God, the hyperbole -- devoid, of course, of all evidence -- has started already.

I'm sitting this one out.

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Hyperbole to you maybe, so yes, please sit it out then. A grown man found drunk in a hot tub at 3:30am with underage girls while in his underwear is evil in my book. That's no exaggeration but court fact, so yeah, maybe your definition of evil may be different, but no hyperbole there.
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14 years ago
Eh, we're all evil. Some of us are just more stupid and have less self-control than others. Fame is like cocaine to these people. They get all high on themselves and start to think that the rules don't apply to them.
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I'm evil in video games, the amount of strippers i have killed in GTA is disgusting.
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