I agree that the media have overrated Peyton Manning. That seems to be what youre getting at. In fact, if I were an MVP voter, I would have only voted for one of his four MVPs.
However, Manning's offensive line is flat out terrible. I would be shocked if the Colts don't overhaul the entire unit. Also, Manning in his prime is better than Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers for that matter, though I think Rodgers can still get better. If youre arguing that Manning is past his prime, I agree. The offensive line comment stood out though.
If I had any beef with the written article it would be that the writer puts Brees in such high regard above Rodgers. Would his opinion change if Rodgers leads the Packers to a Super Bowl title? If so, perhaps Rodgers isnt a good example to use in suggesting that the QB rating is flawed. For the record, I think it is.
"porky88" wrote:
Manning folds in playoffs. As much as people hate Favre, Favre had a better playoff record. Yes, Favre folded in playoffs too but he's a notch above Manning. Check out the SB stats for example. I'm tired of grabbing stats for people as for one, nobody reads them anyways and for another, it's a lot of work for me.
Now Aaron's playoff stats are simply amazing. Besides the game against da Bears, he can be compared with Joe. Yes, you know the Joe I'm talking about. I'm really hoping we win this SB this year as #4 for us has been very elusive, but also so Aaron can finally get some freaking respect.
OK, 10 years from now, how is that? We'll revisit this topic and I can guarantee you that NOBODY will be saying Manning is better than Aaron. NOBODY.
I've also made clear my prejudices. I do not like non-mobile passers. Montana, Young, Ben R, Favre, and Aaron were/are all pretty elusive. People forget Montana was a decent scrambler. Young was even better. Ben R sometimes just doesn't go down, no matter how many guys you throw at him. Heck, we sacked him 5 times and he still threw 500+ yards against us. Favre used to break tackles and complete passes. He'd flip his waist and the defender would go flying off. Literally. Aaron is slippery. You'd think you'd have a sack and suddenly he's over there and completing a pass.
Not so with Manning. Like I told some Steeler fans last week, put him behind the Steelers or the Packers OL and he wouldn't survive the season. They agreed. For the record, the Steeler fans I've talked to are even more sick of the Manning media blowing than I am. Yes, the Colts OL has declined but it's nowhere near either of the two teams in the SB.
So that's not a viable excuse. I really don't see why P Manning gets so many excuses. The media worship of the guy makes no sense at all. My word, he's had elite Ds before (including #1, something Aaron hasn't had yet), possibly the best possession WR ever for like 10 years. If I'm not mistaken, he has an All Pro WR this year. Do we? No. Our only All Pro guy is on D.
Take 2 teams. Build one around P Manning and one around Aaron. See which one will be better. For one - you don't need elite WRs with Aaron. Aaron's more accurate than Manning, especially when throwing deep. Yes, Manning calls his own plays. I'll give credit where it's due. That's pretty cool, but not as good in my book as having an accurate deep ball or being elusive.
The other thing about Aaron is you don't even need a good OL. With that, you can use your resources more on D.
One other thing that's lost in this debate - Aaron Rodgers' current team has 16, yes, 16 people on IR including his #1 favorite target and his #1 RB. We've won games with no running game at all until Starks emerged. Yet, everyone still is making excuses for Manning. Look, Manning is not in the SB because against the Jets, he couldn't do it. I watched the freaking game. He wasn't that good except for that one TD pass. Aaron doesn't need excuses. He performs. He's in the SB with a team with more injuries than the Colts.
And yes, I'll be telling everyone "I told you so." I got pretty pissed off about the things I was called last year and earlier this year when I made the comparison. Did I take it personally? Yes, I did. It's because the attacks were personal. Not you though Porky. You can have an intelligent argument without making it personal so by no means am I calling you out for what was said earlier. That's why I'm responding to you because I enjoy discussing sports with someone who can discuss sports the right way.
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