NFL Players on Jay Cutler ·

Porforis
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http://nfl-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/27211841

@RaheemBrock (Raheem Brock Seahawks DE) Cutler...wut a sissy! This is the NFC Championship game! Guaranteed if it was brett farve..he would still be in the game! (and) Cutler u little siSsy...how does it feel that ur back up's backup is the only 1that can put pts on the board!I bet cutler comes back now!

Bears QB Jay Cutler was out of the game early in the third quarter with a knee injury, and those in the Twitter world, especially his NFL colleagues, began to brutalize him.

@Jones_Drew32 (Maurice Jones-Drew Jaguars RB) Hey I think the urban meyer rule is effect right now... When the going gets tough........QUIT.. (and) All I'm saying is that he can finish the game on a hurt knee... I played the whole season on one...

Cutler, out with a knee injury that no one had seen him sustain and that kept him on the bench for most of the second half of the Bears 21-14 loss to the Packers, showed no heart. He has no guts. One sweet-looking woman on Twitter she looks like she makes cookies on the weekends for her children called him the p-word.

@DBrooks55 (Derrick Brooks former Buccaneers LB) BEARS fans I am so SORRY, I have to be crawling and cant get up to come off field,Josh Freeman would not come out, MEDS ARE AVAILABLE

But much of the rancor came from Cutlers fellow players. Most of them would play on a knee injury any kind of knee injury if they had the chance to participate in a conference championship game. Like a certain QB from San Diego.

@DBrooks55: Knee injury has to be VERY VERY INJURED, if you come out, Philip Rivers p[layed on torn acl now its pick,seriously JAY CUTLER

Cutler left the field a few seconds early at the end of the first half, and he was one of the last Bears on the field to begin the second half. After one series, he was done for the day.

@kerryrhodes (Kerry Rhodes Cardinals safety): Cmon cutler u have to come back. This is the NFC championship if u didn't know.

I guess the issue now is how his teammates will view him. Is he not tough enough? Did he quit on his teammates?

@Thepresidentcb (Asante Samuel Eagles CB) If he was my teammate I would be looking at him sideways.

Hell, would his teammates even allow him to dress in the same space as they did after the game?

@ddockett (Darnell Dockett Cardinals DT) If I'm on chicago team jay cutler has to wait till me and the team shower get dressed and leave before he comes in the locker room! #FACT

So, lets hear from one of Cutlers teammates. A guy who most likely knows Cutler better than anybody else on Twitter. A guy who watched the Bears offensive line allow an NFL-high 56 sacks behind a mediocre offensive line, a guy who watched Cutler continue to rise from those sacks to take even more punishment.

A lot of jealous people watching our game on TV when their season is over, Bears LB Brian Urlacher said when he was told many NFL players were blasting Cutler on Twitter. Jay was hurt. We dont question his toughness. Hes tough as hell. He doesnt bitch, he doesnt complain when he gets hit.

Will the comments from his teammates - C Olin Kreutz indicated to reporters he thought Cutler had a torn ligament and that he couldn't believe Cutler came out for the second half at all - change the publics perception of Cutler? Probably not. If Cutler who declined after the game to comment on those questioning his toughness is diagnosed with a torn ACL, will people walk back their words? Doubtful. If he needs major surgery, will people apologize for their snap judgments? No chance.

The dye already has been cast for Cutler. His reputation will suffer. It might follow him for the rest of his career.

People wont forget this, no matter the reasons he couldnt play. People still will want to burn his jersey. His career will be tainted by this. Its unfortunate.

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musccy
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14 years ago

The irony is that his backup was more productive than he was, so it was arguably a blessing in disguise.

The criticism is a catch 22, though. On one hand, he didn't appear to be writhing in pain so it obviously looks bad in a sport for tough guys with the opportunity to go the SB on the line...on the other hand, consider the concerns for player safety (more specifically for head injuries mind you) over the past few years.

Nonstopdrivel
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14 years ago

I found this comment interesting:

I live here in Chicago, and I saw Cutler out at 12 midnight last night drinking at bars in Lincoln Park with his girlfriend. Is it just me, or would you think drinking and partying before the biggest game in Chicago history might affect your game? Maybe some guys can handle this, but for someone who has never been in this situation, I would think you would do everything in your power to be ready. Clearly he was not, as it was a pathetic display, well before he supposedly got hurt.

"deez1227" wrote:

musccy
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14 years ago

^^ well that certainly alters the how I look at his injury. This certainly isn't the first time a player has been up to trouble the night before a big game (e.g. Eugene Robinson before the super bowl when with the Falcons) but it still has to be mind-numbingly frustrating to see it happen.

flep
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14 years ago

I found this comment interesting:

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

"deez1227" wrote:

Well it must be true if it's on the internet.

Who was he with??? Elvis and Tupac?

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I feel very wrong now!!!!!!!!!

Since69
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14 years ago

"musccy" wrote:

Cutler probably thought he could go all "Max McGee" on us...

dfosterf
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14 years ago

I have to admit that I have been enjoying this "controversy" on the sports shows this morning.

But-

I just read that Cutler welled up when told about the criticism from players on other teams.

He has ruined the mood, for me. Some will see that as further evidence of...whatever.

I vote we leave him alone. We got our win, and while this whole story is extraordinarily tempting to cling to, to revel in, etc.

It's not our place to judge him. Others will do so. Mercilessly, apparently.

We got bigger fish to fry, namely, a Super Bowl game.

This off-season is not starting out so good for Bears fans.

Rockmolder
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14 years ago

It must be very, very handy to have 22 doctors on the field at all times. I do wonder why these players don't actually tell the trainers what's wrong with their teammates when their injured, though, seeing as they can just go by TV footage and tell how bad the injuries are.

Zero2Cool
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14 years ago

"dfosterf" wrote:

I do not like Jay Cutler. He said his knee was hurt. He says the doctors told him he couldn't go. I think Lovie played a role in that decision. Deien Sanders said it best, "i wont question a player being injured, but i will question a players heart".

I don't know if he was hurt or not, but I do know that Phillip Rivers played with a torn MCL or ACL for a full game in the playoffs. Jay wasn't getting iced, he was up standing around and I heard he wasn't even trying to help the third string QB. If that's true, that's shady.

I also don't think he deserves to be blasted like this because we don't know all of the details. Jay does get vocal with his team in the huddle and occasionally on the sideline, but no one wants to see or hear that.

dfosterf
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14 years ago

#10

One other thing. This guy has been sacked a zillion times these past two years...

Think about it, the SOB has to play behind an offensive line that is worse than ours, for cripes sake.

I have never seen him "tap out" or whatever. I don't like Cutler, I admit that, but it mostly has to do with his "twerpy" appearance--to me-- and his "seeming" indifference at times, and not seeing him actively involved with his backups only adds "fuel to the fire" in my perceptions of him. It doesn't help his cause that he is Chicago Bear--again, to me.

But "quitter"?

Nah. Not when I really try to be fair, regardless of MRI results or whatever.

musccy
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14 years ago

#11

Mike and Mike raised this point...if he was legitimately hurt and knew he would be ineffective, should he actually be praised for being willing to take himself out knowing he'd be hurting the team? Although it's hard to base a lot on 1 throw, his throw to Forte was woefully short in the 3rd quarter.

2nd thing, this may be a ridiculous question by me, but even if he has a slight tear or minor sprain, do you think the team would be willing to fudge the report to the public to make it appear worse than it is? If it's reported to NOT be a substantial tear, we all know he'll be hated more than Bartman or Lebron in Cleveland.

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14 years ago

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I found this comment interesting:

"flep" wrote:

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

Well it must be true if it's on the internet.

Who was he with??? Elvis and Tupac?

"deez1227" wrote:

LOL, that actually made me laugh out loud. Good stuff.

It wouldn't surprise me if Cutler was out and about though, they guy doesn't seem to really give a crap what anyone thinks about him.

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dfosterf
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#13

"musccy" wrote:

I think it would be wise to fudge the report if necessary. Cutler is their franchise QB. I can think of no good that would come from allowing the perception that he wasn't really injured to fester in the minds of the fan base.

Fans have their players on too short a "leash" as it is, generally speaking. We are all guilty of knee jerk reactions, (no pun intended) the media will only cream him him further, etc.

I'd lie if I had to, if I were them.

Zero2Cool
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14 years ago

#14

Report: Cutler has MCL tear

Porforis
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14 years ago

#15

Injury or no injury, he gave up without a fight. If you're really hurt that bad, why aren't you icing it? Why are you standing on the sidelines?

dhazer
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14 years ago

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Report: Cutler has MCL tear

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

a little more to add

Chicago Bears QB Jay Cutler (knee) suffered a torn medial collateral ligament in the NFC Championship Game, according to Sean Jensen, of the Chicago Sun-Times. The grade of the tear is still being determined.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Greg C.
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14 years ago

#17

The controversy really has less to do with Cutler's toughness than it does with the fact that he is unlikable and has atrocious body language on the sidelines.

When we had a Cutler thread a couple weeks ago, beginning with an article that described some of Cutler's boorish behavior, Cheesey made the comment that he can get away with it as long as things are going well, but when things go bad, look out. That's what we're seeing right now. When you're a jerk, you don't get the benefit of the doubt.

Having said that, I will say that I think these NFL players on Twitter are just a bunch of blowhards and the criticism is way over the top.

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Kingkoopa
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My whole take on this is this:

WTF IS WRONG WITH THE BEARS!!! Their doctors, training staff should come out and say "we forced Cutler to sit out". They're not doing that. They have said nothing. I know his teammates have defended him(which is a good sign for Bears fans), but the doctors and Lovie Smith need to defend him more than anyone else.

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Nonstopdrivel
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#19

Cheesey made the comment that he can get away with it as long as things are going well, but when things go bad, look out. That's what we're seeing right now. When you're a jerk, you don't get the benefit of the doubt.

"Greg C." wrote:

Yep. There's a very well-known girl on my campus who typifies this. She is rude, bossy, aggressive, manipulative and in every way unlikable. She forces her way into groups and demands accommodation by trying to intimidate everyone. She used to be reasonably good looking (for a Korean), and while that lasted, she more or less got her way. Then over a period of two or three months she gained about 40 lbs and went from reasonably attractive to downright repulsive. Yet she kept treating people the same way. Now no one listens to her and she has no friends left. She failed to realize that as long as you're hot (or in Cutler's case, winning), people will make allowances for your flaws; but as soon as that goes away, so does the tolerance. I'm not saying it's right, but it is the way the world works.

Wade
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I find it interesting that sport figures and fans tend to object quite frequently to political correctness (which, btw, I have no problem with at all), yet they also get really bothered when an athlete like Cutler refuses to be nice and "personable".

I'm not a Cutler fan. He's always struck me as a Brett Favre who has never learned discipline on the field, and of course he plays for the Bears.

But I also think he takes a bad rap because, unlike your average quarterback, he doesn't bother to be nice nice on the podium or when a reporter shoves a mike in his face.

So fucking what if a camera catches him on the sideline not smiling or wrapped up because he's just been knocked out of the most important game in his life.

I'm not saying he's a saint or a role model. He's a quarterback -- my working assumption is that, like most quarterbacks, he's basically an asshole. And if people want to rip on him for his play when he's in the game, that's one thing. But ripping into him because he didn't "man up" and play through the injury, or because he wasn't spending his time chatting with Caleb Hanie? Give me an effin' break.

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