Packers running backs coach says the devil's in the details· Page 4

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

Philadelphia Eagles drafted 1 RB 2nd round.

He is not a bust.

Bust rate 0 %

"dfosterf" wrote:

I'll stick to thinking with my pea sized brain with facts rather than ideas formulated by someone else.

I like how you don't specify which year, that's awesome analysis right thar!!

Edit, LeSean McCoy, 2nd round, 53rd overall, Eagles. Excellent pick!

dfosterf
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#32

Arian Foster 1616 yards UDFA Not a bust

Jamaal Charles 1467 yards 3rd rd pick Not a bust

Michael Turner 1371 yards 5th rd pick Not a bust

Maurice Jones-Drew 1324 yards 2nd rd pick Not a bust

Ahmad Bradshaw 1235 yards 7th rd pick Not a bust

Ray Rice 1220 yards 2nd rd pick Not a bust

Peyton Hillis 1177 yards 7th rd pick Not a bust

LeSean McCoy 1080 yards 2nd rd pick Not a bust

Brandon Jackson [goes to the equivalent of hell on the NFL leaderboard to find him, technically 32nd--] 703 yards bust

32nd... Talk about a ham and egger...

Compare to:

Ryan Grant UDFA that we paid a 6th for--

In 2007, he was somewhat low on the pecking order-- 24th-- But he only started 7 friggin' games! and put up 956 yards (That was a 2100 yard pace, friends)

2008 1203 yards not a bust

2009 1253 yards not a bust

703 friggin' yards from a 2nd rd pick playing in his contract year. The whole league fears him. lol

peteralan71
Registered

14 years ago

#33

Its so hard to predict what RBs will translate their talents efficiently from college to the NFL.

What is the hardest position to make the move from college to NFL? I know I've heard it before but cannot remember it...

Green Bay: Home of the Green & Gold. And the hunter orange. And the camouflage.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#34

It's QB

by FAR

(Nobody liked my "Hit the trail but probably hit a tree instead" comment?--That's some funny shit right there, fellas [and lasses])

peteralan71
Registered

14 years ago

#35

It's QB

by FAR

(Nobody liked my "Hit the trail but probably hit a tree instead" comment?--That's some funny shit right there, fellas [and lasses])

"dfosterf" wrote:

I smiled at it..........

Thats what I think too, is QB. But for some reason, I thought that I remembered maybe hearing that it was CB. I wanted to see if thats what you guys thought. That just doesn't seem right to me. The other one that I could see being the hardest possibly would be an offensive tackle. There is a lot of intelligence that goes into being a tackle and they have to think VERY quickly, and it seems like the position gets overlooked.

Green Bay: Home of the Green & Gold. And the hunter orange. And the camouflage.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#36

This site has a LOT of those answers for you (kev can ignore, but it is good stuff for those with an interest)

http://www.draftmetrics.com/

Cornerbacks are a fascinating issue... We as Packer fans ALL remember Ahmad C##rol--- Your answer lies above...

This is a useful stat, btw: (Even though it's "old news")

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldraftavg/

I would just like to be able to shoot any statistician in the ass that doesn't think we need a seriously credible run game, btw

We got a left tackle that goes to the pro bowl and can't run block, playing alongside a left guard that can't run block either, a coach that like to run to that side, a RT probably playing out of position because we need that pass block on the left, thereby negating whatever he brings to the table, another fairly decent looking RT type riding the pine because of a wrist issue early on, a friggin' RB that still can't figure out that there will be no hole-but rather a "seam"-whatever the fuck that is (consult Grant, lol) ... and fans that defend the whole crazy bunch of 'em largely because they are Packers. This is why we drink so much in Wisconsin... Even those of us that are long-gone from the whack-place physically.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

#37

"dfosterf" wrote:

I shouldn't have came back to this thread. You really don't know what you're talking about. One year can be a bust, but the previous/following then they are not? Hold up, correction, I do not know what YOU are talking about. A bust for me is the whole body of work, not a single year, not a single play in a game.

I aim for objective thinking while in context, not just seeing OMG 2nd rounder, OMG didn't hit 1,000 yards = BUST!!

dfosterf
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#38

The whole body of work for Jackson is a bust.

A complete bust.

FOUR years

2 touchdowns

3 fumbles

1329 yards... in F O U R years

He should not be taking any carries. NONE. They are way too important on this team, and he screws them up. He has proven that over and over and over.

(If Kev opts to respond, I'm going to recommend he be SHOT (Jackson, not Kev-yet, lol) prior to our game with the Iggles [E A G L E S- Kev] lol )

Maybe your boy can redeem himself with a great game and/or play like Lynch just did... After all Lynch was most decidedly one of the 1st rounders that some seem to think you need to go to in a running back...

(even though Seattle got him for a 4th rounder)

peteralan71
Registered

14 years ago

#39

I agree. For what Jackson has done this season, I am not a fan. If he picks it up, GREAT. But as of now, he deserves to be replaced.

Green Bay: Home of the Green & Gold. And the hunter orange. And the camouflage.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

#40

"dfosterf" wrote:

Brandon Jackson has 9 career touchdowns.

You're ability to distinguish a bust is ... is a bust in itself.

I agree on you don't really know what you're saying. You're still good shit, but you just don't know what a bust is, which is aight. :)

Edit, btw, he's not my boy. I've said MANY times, I hope he's replaced. He played in 52 games, started 16 out of a possible 64 and helped us out. He's not a featured back, that does not mean the second to last pick in the 2nd round of 2007 was a bust. It's not that hard to comprehend and if we're lucky, the Packers will find an upgrade for 3rd down. 🙂

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