4th and 1 , why the bomb !!· Page 3

Pack93z
Select Member

14 years ago

#21

Now before you get pissy... I would have rather we ran the ball for the yard. 😉

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Stevetarded
Registered

14 years ago

#22

I may have even been ok with it had it been Rodgers going for the win but it was Matt freaking Flynn who missed several plays like that in the same game. He was accurate on the short passes even on a few that got that last drive moving but on 3rd and 1 we are going to try TWO straight passes well past the 1st down marker. That is just stupid to me.

blank

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#23

on a short yardage play when more than likely the Lions aren't looking for it.

"pack93z" wrote:

Are we so sure of that? Mike McCarthy has made a habit of going deep on 3rd- and 4th-and-short all year. I'm sure opposing defenses are more than prepared for it now. It's hardly a surprise to them, which is reflected in the fact that the tactic has been abysmally unsuccessful the entire season.

Dulak
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#24

I don't mind an aggressive kill shot on like 1st or 2nd down but when you need just 1 yard and have a ton of time left it's just dumb.

You don't have to like the odds, it wasn't just Jennings 1 on 1 with Vasher. It was Jennings 1 on 1 with Vasher getting a pass from Flynn who had been inaccurate on every single downfield throw the entire game.

The safety was pretty deep and the middle of the field was wide open. (In case you believed throwing the ball was ABSOLUTELY necessary)

"Stevetarded" wrote:

I havnt watched the game yet - but just from the statements I have read - 4th and 1 with a bomb from flynn to jennings ... that should speak louder then the result.

I got a easier play that is usually a guaranted 1st down. Quinn as a blocker and kuhn rushing away from suh for a 1st down.

IronMan
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#25

I don't mind an aggressive kill shot on like 1st or 2nd down but when you need just 1 yard and have a ton of time left it's just dumb.

"Stevetarded" wrote:

Bingo.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

#26

4th and 1, with time to spare, I'd have rather seen a quick slant, a fake go to hook route or something. Hell, even a QB roll-out to give Flynn a chance to run for a first. I like Jennings on Vasher, but just because Jennings can torch him, doesn't mean Flynn can hit Jennings.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#27

Flynn can hit Jennings.

Flynn is a good back up quarterback. He can move this team.

It's kind of weird having to try and explain what it's like to know what good and bad looks like in your back up quarterback in Green Bay.

There is a whole generation out there that couldn't possibly truly fathom what a sucky Green Bay back-up quarterback looks like.

...And half the old fogies that are as old or older than I am have no friggin' clue how to use a computer to tell you.

More howlin' at the moon in store for 'ol Dfoster, I reckon.

It was a decent call, especially in the context of a back-up QB at the helm. I'm actually somewhat surprised that Jennings wasn't wide-assed open.

Ballsy call. Ballsy.

Flynn's fine, fix the line.

azrunning
Guest

14 years ago

#28

Personally, I didn't like the call either. Would have preferred a higher percentage play.

BAD EMAIL because the address couldn ot be found, or is unable to receive mail.

musccy
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#29

The Packers have not shown the ability to effectively gain short yardage situations all year.

Vs. Detroit, we were down to our #3 left guard, the 4 man rush of detroit wasn't allowing our backs to even get to the LOS untouched all game, and the avg of our RBs that game was 2.7 (BJ), 1.3 (Stark), 2.0 (Nance)...keep in mind that those averages weren't typically with a loaded box.

I'm not saying the bomb was necessarily high percentage, but it's hard to convince me that a run, given all those circumstances was a substantially better option than our #1 wr vs. an aging street free agent cb.

warhawk
Senior Member

14 years ago

#30

"musccy" wrote:

....and let's not forget they STILL had to get the ball in the endzone which we hadn't done all day long so while getting the 1st there would have been nice the clock was against us and the odds of getting in were dwindling.

The play was there with Jennings one-on one with Vasher and as far as I am concerned it was the best shot for 6 we had or would have had even had we converted there. There is no way Detroit would have let that matchup happen again. The 4th and 1 situation put Detroit in a position to gamble some there and that for me made it the best chance we had. It was also going to be Flynn's best opportunity to step back there and deliver the ball. If we had gotten the 1st Detroit would have been all over him from there on out.

It was a gutsy call in a way but not really when you look at everything and try to figure what is the highest percentage opportunity to score a TD. I find it a little ironic that so many here blast MM for being too conservative and then when he calls the shot he get's thrown under the bus.

I don't know what game people here were watching but the one I saw told me if we were going to score a TD it was somehow going to happen going over the top. The Oline was performing so poorly there just wasn't much of a chance for a drive to be successful.

"The train is leaving the station."

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

Zero2Cool (19h) : Packers gonna unveil new throwback helmet in few weeks.

Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : I know it's Kleiman but this stuff writes itself

Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : "Make sure she signs the NDA before asking for a Happy Ending!"

Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : @NFL_DovKleiman Powerful: Deshaun Watson is taking Shedeur Sanders 'under his wing' as a mentor to the Browns QBs

Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Dolphins get (back) Minkah Fitzpatrick in trade

Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Steelers land Jalen Ramsey via Trade

dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us

dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.

wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.

Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year

dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot

dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.

dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year

dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.

Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?

Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason

Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”

Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.

Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.

Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH

beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.

Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law

Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter

Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter

Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp

dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night

dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60

dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO

Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : one year $4m with incentives to make it up to $6m

dfosterf (18-Jun) : Or Lions

dfosterf (18-Jun) : Beats the hell out of a Vikings signing

Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : Baltimore Ravens now have signed former Packers CB Jaire Alexander.

dfosterf (14-Jun) : TWO magnificent strikes for touchdowns. Lose the pennstate semigeezer non nfl backup

dfosterf (14-Jun) : There was minicamp Thursday. My man Taylor Engersma threw

dfosterf (11-Jun) : There will be a mini camp practice Thursday.

Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : He's been sporting a ring for a while now. It's probably Madonna.

Martha Careful (10-Jun) : We only do the tea before whoopee, it relaxes me.

wpr (10-Jun) : That's awesome Martha.

Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : How's the ayahuasca tea he makes, Martha?

Martha Careful (10-Jun) : Turns out he like older women

Martha Careful (10-Jun) : I wasn't supposed to say anything, but yes the word is out and we are happy 😂😂😂

Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : I might be late on this but Aaron Rodgers is now married

Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : Well he can always ask his brother for pointers

Zero2Cool (10-Jun) : Bo Melton taking some reps at CB as well as WR

Zero2Cool (10-Jun) : key transactions coming today at 3pm that will consume more cap in 2025

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2025 Packers Schedule

Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM

COMMANDERS

Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM

Browns

Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM

Cowboys

Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM

BENGALS

Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM

Cardinals

Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM

Steelers

Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM

PANTHERS

Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM

EAGLES

Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM

Giants

Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM

Broncos

Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM

Bears

Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM

RAVENS

Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM

Vikings