longtimefan
13 years ago

Based on the injuries this year, Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson have my vote for coach and GM of the year. Mike McCarthy for the job he and the coaching staff have done prepping the team/replacement players every week, and Ted Thompson for getting Mike McCarthy the players in the first place.

The injuries the Packers have sustained would have been devastating to most teams, and the fact that the Packers are 7-3 and tied for the division lead just emphasize what a terrific job they are doing.

In my book, both Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson have earned a pass for the forseeable future.


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"macbob" wrote:



I would agree...But could/should we add Clay and Pickett?
Stevetarded
13 years ago

See this is where stats don't prove a point, all 3 of those backs share the backfield. So of course their stats will be lower

"dhazer" wrote:



Their 3.1 and 3.5 averages wouldn't. Lynch and Barber are playing like garbage this year and that's a fact.

As for "sharing the backfield" Jackson has 122 carries, Lynch has 118 and Barber has 102. I don't see what significance you find in sharing the backfield when they all have a similar amount of carries.

The point is I think that none of those players are showing that they are so much better that they would have been worth a 3rd round pick.
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longtimefan
13 years ago

I'm suprised every now and then by threads like this.

a) Why are there people who still don't trust Ted Thompson?

b) Why do people just parrot the media like ESPN? Why do they not think for themselves?

c) Why do people doubt the ability of the coaching staff to develop players? Tramon Williams and Sam Shields were undrafted free agents.

d) Signing overpriced jerks with baggage is not Ted Thompson's way.

e) The people that work for the Packers know more about football than the people in the media.

"CaliforniaCheez" wrote:



It will happen again next year during free agency
Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
The guy in front of Lynch now is averaging 4.4 and he is averaging 3.1 ypc. That tells me he is the problem. Overall may be lower because he shares carries, but the per carry average shouldn't be effected.

Last year in Buffalo, the guy in front of and the guy behind Lynch both averaged 4.5 while he averaged 3.8 ypc.

There is no other conclusion, he sucks.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

See this is where stats don't prove a point, all 3 of those backs share the backfield. So of course their stats will be lower

"TwinkieGorilla" wrote:



Are you honestly...with a straight fucking face...trying to tell me that Brandon Jackson isn't sharing carries?

"dhazer" wrote:





+1.
Brandon may be sharing carries, but take away that 75 yard run, and let's see what his average is. lol.
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Packers_Finland
13 years ago
DeAngelo Williams has been placed on the IR ages ago so you can't compare his stats with Brandon's.
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dyeah_gb
13 years ago
I have to admit that B-Jack has been progressively earning the role of starting RB and his stats are competitive with other starters in the league. I was getting anxious for us to make some moves by week 4; especially after seeing our rivals pick up some veteran support like Moss. Since then, the Moss trade has proven to be one of the biggest busts ever and other trades have not payed off either. TT's approach to stay the course has proven to be a definite success this year.

I also give credit to Mike McCarthy in creating more running plays out of the shotgun and really thinking of plays to make us appear less predictable.
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dhazer
13 years ago
Well I don't like the whole splitting carries thing I can see where the teams are coming from, They don't want the back to take to much pounding thus having his body fresh down the stretch. But then you run into problems with some backs that need to get the ball 20 times to get into the flow of the game. I recall hearing Barry Sanders say he needed to touch the ball alot just to get into the game. AP is another one that needs to carry the ball 20 times.

Out of the 3 you mention D Williams is the one I really wanted, I would love to have the backfield of Williams and Grant next year.

Also you point out yards per carry as the main stat, well that could be flawed also when you think Barber usually gets the ball on the short yardage plays. So when the defense knows your running it is kind of hard to have a huge average.

Just some thoughts, I am not saying we screwed up by not getting one of these guys, just saying you can't look at the stats.

I will try and do some searching,because I am interested in seeing how many teams actually have a shared backfield. Off the top of my head the 2 best rushing teams (don't quote me on the rankings) Atlanta and the Giants have a split backfield.
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Packers_Finland
13 years ago

See this is where stats don't prove a point, all 3 of those backs share the backfield. So of course their stats will be lower

"nerdmann" wrote:



Are you honestly...with a straight fucking face...trying to tell me that Brandon Jackson isn't sharing carries?

"TwinkieGorilla" wrote:





+1.
Brandon may be sharing carries, but take away that 75 yard run, and let's see what his average is. lol.

"dhazer" wrote:



While we are at it let's take away all the big runs from every other back in the league.
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Rockmolder
13 years ago

See this is where stats don't prove a point, all 3 of those backs share the backfield. So of course their stats will be lower

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Are you honestly...with a straight fucking face...trying to tell me that Brandon Jackson isn't sharing carries?

"nerdmann" wrote:





+1.
Brandon may be sharing carries, but take away that 75 yard run, and let's see what his average is. lol.

"TwinkieGorilla" wrote:



While we are at it let's take away all the big runs from every other back in the league.

"dhazer" wrote:



Exactly. Let's try that with Adrian Peterson and he'll look like a horrible back, all of a sudden.

His statlines are usually something like 1, 3, 2, -1, 5, 0, 48.

I agree that, on such a small sample, Brandon's stats might be a bit skewed, but you can't take those big runs away. He's just not a guy who consistently gets you 5 yards, ramming it up the middle.
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