Pack93z
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14 years ago
Three Keys vs Packers.

http://link.cinesport.com/services/player/bcpid326028277001?bctid=685738345001 
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dfosterf
14 years ago

So Pack93z, I bascially said everything of note from those posts in my earlier comment in this thread.

Man, I'm good.

"pack93z" wrote:



Yep.. my quest is now complete. ;)

+1 for thinking like a Falcon fan. lol.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:




...And I am going to complete my quest by +1'ing you, Shawn--I ran into your comments on the Falcons forum...

Well done, and classy, as always !

I will not deduct for the classy part, because unfortunately, that is how you roll (totally kidding on that last part)
Ice2White
14 years ago
Hello. I'm a Falcons fan, so I can give you a pretty decent view from your opponent. :thumbleft:

On the topic of our defense, and specifically how we rank against the run and the pass, I think the numbers are very misleading.

Against the run, the Falcons are 21st in yards per attempt, but they're sixth overall in rushing yards.

Against the pass, the Falcons are 24th in the NFL in total yards.

The reason for this is that the Falcons, who's offense is sixth in scoring, jump out to early leads very often. By doing this, they force teams to abandon the run in order to play catch up. So teams are racking up the pass yards as they attempt to catch up after we take the lead.

Another important stat is that the only two teams have allowed fewer plays of 20+ yards than the Falcons. This is all a product of their gameplan.

The Falcons are all about clock management, and dominating time of possession. The Falcons are tied with the Packers and a few other teams for second place with 15 interceptions. They are fourth in the NFL in turnover ratio and second in the league in time of possession.

Remember that we are sixth in the league in scoring, and yet we're 25th in passing plays that total more than 20 yards. Our drives are long and methodical. What this all adds up to is a team that jumps out to an early lead and plays very conservative defense, giving a lot of cushion off the line of scrimmage, and preventing big plays from happening. We take the ball away quite a bit, and we don't give it back.

Once we have a lead, our defense forces opponents to dink and dunk their way down the field (remember our defense is third in plays resulting in more than 20 yards). So while teams abandon the run and rack up the pass yards with drives that might result in a touchdown, we're still forcing you to take up a good bit of time off the clock before you get those points. Then you have to kick it off to our offense who doesn't turn it over and likes to hold on to the ball for a very long time.

Even with that, our defense is seventh in scoring defense (I am aware that the Packers are second), so it's not like scoring points comes easy because of how conservative we play. We're actually pretty talented on that side of the ball, though we are young in many positions.

So my point is that the Falcons really do dictate a lot of what their opponents do throughout the game. Even if our pass defense looks terrible on paper, we're usually in complete control of the game. Against the Ravens a couple of weeks ago it almost came back to bight us, but luckily Matt Ryan is very adept at running a two-minute offense and getting those last minute-game winning drives.

The Packers are the without a doubt best team the Falcons have played all year in my opinion. I expect us to start the game with the no-huddle offense, much like the we did against Baltimore. I think that if it's a shoot out, the Packers can definitely win. But if the Packers don't score early and often, I like the Falcons' chances. That said, I'm not supremely confident that the Packers won't do what it takes to pull this one out. Sorry for the uber-long post. I really like your board.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Glad you like it and don't be a stranger. 🙂
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Johnson
14 years ago

I agree with a lot of what the Atlanta fans are saying. I think it will come down to pressure on the quarterbacks and protecting the football. Just like they are worried about our receivers if we have time, Roddy White is arguably the best in the league and even with our secondary we can't give him time to run around the field.

The only thing I disagree with is the two of them that assert that our wins don't compare to theirs. One of them talks about barely winning against Detroit (who has been close in virtually every game) whereas they ignore the fact they barely beat San Francisco. They downplay our win against the Jets because we only scored 9 points but we won at New York and by more than they beat Baltimore by (and they beat them on a blatant offensive pass interference, not like they crapped on them). We beat Philadelphia who they lost to. They downplay us beating Buffalo as a who hasn't done that but ignore the same thing with Arizona. They also make the Rams game seem like it was extremely difficult when they're 4-6 with a rookie quarterback and no wins against winning teams (to my knowledge, same can be said about Tampa btw).

The schedules both teams have played have been pretty similar I feel and it will be a tightly fought game.

"mi_keys" wrote:



This game will be decided by coaching. It will be pretty even by halftime and then we will see who adjusts.
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Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
The Packers like to dictate also, by shutting down the opponents offense, taking the ball away and scoring with it. Once they are ahead, they pound the QB and shake down the receivers.

On offense, they calmly score points. Not having to worry too much because the D keeps setting them up for easy scores.
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BangTheDrum
14 years ago


Why is that deaf guy screaming at the camera and showing us clips from training camp? lol
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DGB454
14 years ago



Why is that deaf guy screaming at the camera and showing us clips from training camp? lol

"pack93z" wrote:



And who the heck is Zomba?
Packers_Finland
14 years ago

Hello. I'm a Falcons fan, so I can give you a pretty decent view from your opponent. :thumbleft:

On the topic of our defense, and specifically how we rank against the run and the pass, I think the numbers are very misleading.

Against the run, the Falcons are 21st in yards per attempt, but they're sixth overall in rushing yards.

Against the pass, the Falcons are 24th in the NFL in total yards.

The reason for this is that the Falcons, who's offense is sixth in scoring, jump out to early leads very often. By doing this, they force teams to abandon the run in order to play catch up. So teams are racking up the pass yards as they attempt to catch up after we take the lead.

Another important stat is that the only two teams have allowed fewer plays of 20+ yards than the Falcons. This is all a product of their gameplan.

The Falcons are all about clock management, and dominating time of possession. The Falcons are tied with the Packers and a few other teams for second place with 15 interceptions. They are fourth in the NFL in turnover ratio and second in the league in time of possession.

Remember that we are sixth in the league in scoring, and yet we're 25th in passing plays that total more than 20 yards. Our drives are long and methodical. What this all adds up to is a team that jumps out to an early lead and plays very conservative defense, giving a lot of cushion off the line of scrimmage, and preventing big plays from happening. We take the ball away quite a bit, and we don't give it back.

Once we have a lead, our defense forces opponents to dink and dunk their way down the field (remember our defense is third in plays resulting in more than 20 yards). So while teams abandon the run and rack up the pass yards with drives that might result in a touchdown, we're still forcing you to take up a good bit of time off the clock before you get those points. Then you have to kick it off to our offense who doesn't turn it over and likes to hold on to the ball for a very long time.

Even with that, our defense is seventh in scoring defense (I am aware that the Packers are second), so it's not like scoring points comes easy because of how conservative we play. We're actually pretty talented on that side of the ball, though we are young in many positions.

So my point is that the Falcons really do dictate a lot of what their opponents do throughout the game. Even if our pass defense looks terrible on paper, we're usually in complete control of the game. Against the Ravens a couple of weeks ago it almost came back to bight us, but luckily Matt Ryan is very adept at running a two-minute offense and getting those last minute-game winning drives.

The Packers are the without a doubt best team the Falcons have played all year in my opinion. I expect us to start the game with the no-huddle offense, much like the we did against Baltimore. I think that if it's a shoot out, the Packers can definitely win. But if the Packers don't score early and often, I like the Falcons' chances. That said, I'm not supremely confident that the Packers won't do what it takes to pull this one out. Sorry for the uber-long post. I really like your board.

"Ice2White" wrote:



This some nice analysis right here. I hope you stick around for longer than just this week.
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Ice2White
14 years ago

This some nice analysis right here. I hope you stick around for longer than just this week.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:


Thanks! And I just might. The Packers are a fun team to follow and are definitely a team I can pull for.
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