you talked about the cost, the losing of your rights, the radiation poisoning, you clear hatred for tsa employees but i don't recall you saying point blank...i think we need security just not by federal employees.

so now I'M confused - is it bad period or is it only bad cuz the gov't is doing it? if it becomes privatized don't these above mentioned 'problems' still exist?

i don't get it but again i'm sicker than i've been in ages. forgive me if i'm missing something, zombie. :)

"4PackGirl" wrote:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Ron Paul introduces the American Traveler Dignity Act 

By: E. D. Kain 11/19/10 12:00 AM

David Freddoso over on Beltway Confidential posted this video of Ron Paul (R, TX) introducing his new bill, The American Traveler Dignity Act, on the House floor. The legislation would help curb the growing power of the federal government and the TSA in American airports. Here's Paul's idea in a nutshell:

My legislation is simple. It establishes that airport security screeners are not immune from any US law regarding physical contact with another person, making images of another person, or causing physical harm through the use of radiation-emitting machinery on another person. It means they are subject to the same laws as the rest of us.

I'm not sure if Paul's legislation will gather much momentum, but if there was ever a time to try and curtail the powers of the TSA, that time is now. Public outrage over gropings, invasive body scans, and the targeting of young children for full body pat-downs, is reaching a bubbling point. The blogs have never been so unanimously opposed to a government program, with bloggers on the left and the right agreeing that something must be done to put an end to the security theater playing out in our airports. As Paul noted in his speech, Americans have become too submissive. It's high time we quit acting like sheep.

Naturally, whenever something good is also popular across partisan lines, it stands little chance of success. And security issues are even more difficult to reverse. After all, it only takes one attack on an airplane to initiate yet another round of liberty-crushing government security programs aimed not so much at keeping us safe but at keeping the security establishment off the hook. Security is largely an illusion. No matter how many ways we mangle our constitutional rights in the name of security, there will always be ways for terrorists to harm us. I would argue the mangling of our rights is all the harm they really need to inflict.

Paul is also correct to note that the pilot's gun in the locked cockpit has done by far the most to secure flights - not the long security lines at airports, not body scanners.

James Poulos adds:

My problem with what's unfolding at our nation's airports runs a lot deeper than the misfortune of genital encroachment. My problem is that we're racing down an inherently absurd road. Set aside for a moment the dismaying way in which every new advance in security measures involves a retreat for civil liberties and traditional definitons of decency. Our logic of escalation appears to mean that every new solution actually creates a new and dramatically worse problem -- one which calls, of course, for dramatically more invasive and comprehensive countermeasures.

Where does it end? As a matter of logic, it ends with a free people dehumanizing themselves in a way their own enemies cannot quite manage to do. Fortunately, we are not prisoners of logic. But the awful thing about terrorism is that it very well might keep us prisoner to fear.

Didn't a president once mention that the only thing Americans had to fear was fear itself?

Perhaps we should have heeded those words a little more closely when we created the TSA in the first place. We should heed them now.



http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/opinion-zone/2010/11/ron-paul-introduces-american-traveler-dignity-act#ixzz15tn6S1vb 

I've flown out of La Crosse, Minneapolis, Chicago, Madison, Charlotte, Augusta, Raleigh, Atlanta, New York, Bangor, Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Zurich, Kuwait City, and who knows how many other places. The only place I've encountered friendly TSA agents has been Madison. Most of them are irritable and distant at best, treating people like they are inconveniences -- instead of the taxpayers who pay for their salaries -- and quite a few are overtly rude, if not downright contemptuous.

The infuriating thing about it is I was never treated like that anywhere in Europe. The security agents for other lands were unfailingly polite and helpful. It was only as I was walking through the gate to return to my own land that I was treated as a potential criminal again.

If I've done something wrong -- if I'm acting inappropriately -- then you can treat me like a malcontent. Until then, you damn well be treating me like the guaranteed paycheck that I am, or I will take offense.

Down with the Tyrannical Security Agency. It's outlived its usefulness, if it ever had any in the first place.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

i don't know where the hell you guys fly out of or to but i've NEVER had a tsa employee be rude to me. i've flown several times over the last couple years & from illinois to atlanta to vegas to california to oklahoma had not one problem at all.

we are such a pussy society, it sickens me. we bitch & moan about every little thing so the gov't steps in & tries to make us safer. then we're not happy about that change so once again, the gov't will step in & try to fix that problem. next, someone will get on a plane with a gun or a knife or whatever, somebody will get hurt, & we'll bitch & moan once again about not being safe. it's no wonder the damn gov't can't get anything accomplished.

we're a country of ME ME ME - fix THIS for ME, fix THAT for ME - i don't care what ANYBODY else thinks or feels - i WANT this for ME!! waah waaah waaaah!! big bunch of babies.

"4PackGirl" wrote:

we are such a pussy society, it sickens me. we bitch & moan about every little thing so the gov't steps in & tries to make us safer.

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