Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Sex.
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Sheeyit. Sex is cheap.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Sheeyit. Sex is cheap.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Wait til your kids grow up and you have no money, then talk your shit. 😉
Cheesey
14 years ago
I NEVER buy bottled water. It's a rip off! I fill up soda bottles with water and put them in the fridge.
And i USED to buy movie popcorn.....but whatever "butter" they put on it now gives me the "hershey squirts". So i don't buy it anymore.
I DO sneak in candy on the rare occasion i go to a movie.

Formo
14 years ago

Formo - Actually that was NSD who gave us Kodak. The writer just rubbed salt in our wounds.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Oh damn. lol

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
Dulak
14 years ago

Sheeyit. Sex is cheap.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Wait til your kids grow up and you have no money, then talk your shit. ;)

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



hehe
Packers_Finland
14 years ago



Maybe I really should start trying to like beer.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



What you don't like beer? BLASPHEMY!
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Wade
  • Wade
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14 years ago
College textbooks....where do I start?

1. If they are so expensive, why buy them? Don't give me the "it's required" argument either. There's not a professor I know who runs around dorms checking who bought the textbook and who didn't.

1A. People buy textbooks because they consider them a helluva lot more convenient way to acquire certain information than the alternative. They don't want to spend the time looking for cheaper copies. Or doing the extra work of figuring out what is missing from old editions. Most importantly, they don't want to spend the time looking and evaluating and interpreting all the information that the textbook author and publisher have distilled down for you for a couple hundred bucks or less. Neither would I. Because that would cost a shitload more than the couple hundred bucks you pay for a high end chemistry or economics text.

1B. There's not a textbook used in university classrooms that, if the student put in sufficient effort to figure out what it says and means, doesn't yield value far greater than the price.

2. "But the professor never uses the book." It's not the professor's book. It's your book. *You* are the one who is supposed to use it.

2A. Okay, your professor is an asshole and incompetent besides. (Well, I told you not to take my class, but that's another discussion). What has that to do with your textbook's value. You can only get value from a book if someone tells you what to highlight and memorize and quote on the Fox network? It's called "reading."

3. "But I'm only going to read it this semester and the bookstore is going to screw me on the resale price." You buy a book for its resale value? What? If you're trying to find an investment, go to the financial times online or call your broker or figure out a way to buy some of that cheap real estate sitting unsold. Oh, I forgot, that "flipping real estate" idea isn't working so good now either, is it?

4. If you think you're college education is overpriced, I'm with you. But it's not overpriced because of book costs. Its overpriced because too many of your professors haven't got a clue, and because colleges have gone away from their core competencies (yes, we do have some) and tried to compete in markets where they can't compete without conning the government and donors out of money -- i.e., health club-level facilties for the college community, professional sports teams, restaurant-level food service, suburban apartment quality living spaces, golf-course level groundskeeping, corporate HQ architecture for their administrators, etc.

4A. Frankly, IMO, I think a lot of students would be better off by tripling their book budgets and cancelling their tuition fees. And then get a dishwashing job, and spend their free time finding a basement or attic apartment reading for a couple years.

5. I rarely ask my students to buy mega-buck, new-edition-every-year textbooks. Not because those books lack value greater than their price, though. Because I can find a set of "non-textbook" books that give even more value. Assuming I can persuade my students to put in the effort to draw the value out of them by reading, taking notes, thinking of hypotheticals, doing discussion questions, re-reading, etc.

5A. And the same goes for those "50 cent" DVDs. Yes, it only costs 50 cents to make the physical DVD. But it isn't the seller's cost that matters in determining the price -- its the value a buyer expects to get. Consider your music collection and what's in it and what's not. If you don't like an artist, you won't pay 50 cents for their CD. If you think the artist is the greatest thing since Nightwish or Elvis or the Beatles, you'll pay full CD price.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Pack93z
  • Pack93z
  • Select Member Topic Starter
14 years ago
Ahhhh.... the "Textbook" defense.. I think I had a similar argument with my Econ prof Sophomore year in college at UW-GB.. I wound up conceding to his viewpoint on why I should purchase the book.. only to watch the dickhead basically gut 2/3rds the information and render it not needed...

He was a part timer, worked at a Bank in town and moonlighted his class.. he taught two econ classes and a once a week finance class.. his econ classes were a waste.. but his Finance class.. which I didn't buy the book was a grade A class.. he brought everyday examples to the class and actually taught it. A college rarity.

My expectations of a college level class is that if the professor is worth the money the students are paying to attend the U.. the books themselves are a secondary tool to the class... the class itself should be the main medium of learning and the book itself just a students prep tool for the class.

Sadly.. I skipped probably 50% of the classes themselves and relied on the texts and required reading material because the prof was a go through the motions puppet that provided little value... I could have saved a boat load of money by not attending college other than the piece of paper that says I did at the end. Talked about overpriced. lol.

I learned more in the tunnels of UWGB and the tavern within than I did in all the classrooms combined in that college.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
We don't buy textbooks at UW-L. We rent them. 😉
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