RedSoxExcel
14 years ago

Even a casual glance at Favre's performances in the playoffs the past decade and a half could lead one to the reasoned conclusion that the Packers could conceivably have won more titles had it not been for the repeated meltdowns of their quarterback at the most inopportune times.

Favre is probably the third best regular season quarterback of all time, after Manning and Marino. A great postseason quarterback he is not and never has been. Every time I re-watch the Super Bowl XXXI, it becomes more obvious to me that the Packers won that night not because of Favre's play but because Holmgren kept Favre firmly leashed.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



What about Super Bowl XXXII?
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longtimefan
14 years ago
Redsox just made a valid point that I hope all anti Rodgers people..

Its a TEAM game and a defense can be blamed for a loss but never Brett/Rodgers
RedSoxExcel
14 years ago

Redsox just made a valid point that I hope all anti Rodgers people..

Its a TEAM game and a defense can be blamed for a loss but never Brett/Rodgers

"longtimefan" wrote:



Oh my god... me and LTF agreeing on something???

!!!
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I like how you glided right over the fact that they sacked McNabb 8 times in that game and our running game had over 200 yards. Yes, I watched that game and yes, I watched the Atlanta game too, And I have watched the Rams game repeatedly. If it will make you feel better, I'll watch the other two games a few times and come back with analysis of them.

But this is way off topic. We're supposed to be talking Rodgers here.
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DGB454
14 years ago
Anyway.... I think Rodgers is great.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Aaron is a pretty good QB. Very accurate, beautiful deep ball and makes good decisions.... only flaw I see with him is his hesitation in the pocket with holding the ball longer than he needs to. That no longer seems to be an issue, from the three preseason games I saw.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
So, the reality of Aaron Rodgers ... is?
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musccy
14 years ago
You can pull up offensive/defensive/special teams/water boy stats to prove anything you want, but the last 3 years, Brett's last pass of the year was a pick, same is true of the Philly 4th 26 game, might as well have been true in the St. Louis game.

Rodgers is a statistical stud, which is great, but more importantly, in spite of the fumble vs. AZ, has started to demonstrate that he can win a game, and produce under pressure (best 3rd down rating last year)...We can argue about how good/bad a team was, who carried who, etc. and they're all relevant arguments, but one of the key variables is what do you do when your team needs you to produce - 2min drill, end of game, etc. AR has a lot to prove yet, but seems to demonstrate the capacity to be a winner in this respect.
Silentio
14 years ago
Let's all remember the finger attached to a 250+ pound professional athlete pulling down on Rodger's face mask before we blame him in the fumble at the end of last years game in AZ. Yeah, it would have been nice if he had held on to the ball. It also would have been nice if the ref standing RIGHT THERE would have called the foul.

I agree with evad, above, as I am wont to do: The AZ game, particularly the second half, is the defining game of Rodgers career thus far (and of this team's offense in general) EVEN THOUGH it ended in a loss. Do I want to see him make a deep run in the playoffs? Yes. Would that establish him once and for all as an elite QB? Yes. I don't believe it takes a Super Bowl win to make a QB elite (see Dan Marino). I do think two SB wins would automatically make Rodgers a greater Packer than Favre, if not a greater player.

Anyway, whether he's greater, or elite, or the best, or really sooperdoopergood... I don't really care. I'm thrilled to have him. I'd rather have him than Romo or Rivers, Cutler or McNabb. He gives us the ability to win, something so many teams transitioning from a legendary QB could not say through the late 90s and the 00s.

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beast (30m) : Yeah, but also some of the wording suggestions Jax only pranked called the QB, not the others... and if he had an open spreadsheet & 3 calls
beast (32m) : Thank goodness he's not leaving the Turtle in the Red Tide
Mucky Tundra (56m) : Cowboys 1st round pick Tyler Booker will indeed be bringing his pet turtle to Dallas with him
Mucky Tundra (1h) : that contained all prospects info and contact
Mucky Tundra (1h) : beast, according the Falcons statement Jax came across it on an ipad. If I had to guess, probably an open spread sheet or something
Zero2Cool (1h) : Simmons put up an emoji with cheese.
beast (1h) : Not sure anyone is interested in Isaiah Simmons... Collin Oliver might of taken his potential slot
beast (1h) : I'm going with Jax Ulbrich is not telling the whole truth... he accidentally came across it? Why would a defensive coordinator have a QB #?
Zero2Cool (2h) : He's not that great, but final piece of the script.\
Zero2Cool (2h) : If we add Isaiah Simmons, book your Super Bowl tickets
Mucky Tundra (2h) : Colts 1st round TE Tyler Warren also got prank called, was that Jax Ulbrich as well?
Zero2Cool (2h) : Jax Ulbrich, Jeff Ulbrich’s son, released an apology for his role in the Shedeur Sanders prank call.
Martha Careful (2h) : apparently he did not participate in practice or play on the east west shrine game nor the NFL combine. The kid was a mediocre spoiled brat
Mucky Tundra (3h) : Yeah that one that was a super wounded duck that Sanders supporters are highlighting to prove a point
Zero2Cool (3h) : Shough is the guy who missed guys at combine isn't he?
beast (4h) : It's not official until I'm dead! I have a chance still! (Not really)
Mucky Tundra (13h) : I could feel my body decomposing in real time when I read that
Mucky Tundra (13h) : @MIKEYSAINRISTIL Tyler Shough will officially be the last person drafted to the NFL born in the 1900’s
Mucky Tundra (23h) : saw the tweet, he meant the city
Mucky Tundra (23h) : Was that for the team or the city?
Zero2Cool (23h) : Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 3m Draft grade is in: Green Bay gets an A. The people, the city, the venue were all superb. NFL Draft’s next
Zero2Cool (23h) : Matt LaFleur says Jaire Alexander is participating in #Packers offseason program, which has been conducted virtually during this first week
Zero2Cool (23h) : ✅ ...
buckeyepackfan (26-Apr) : Check
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matthew Golden cahanged 81 to 22??
TheKanataThrilla (26-Apr) : Sam Howell to Vikings...guess no Aaron
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : 1 round 7 min, with one extra minute if there is a trade. 2nd round 4 minutes, 3rd -3, 2 thereafter IMO
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Agree
dfosterf (26-Apr) : Great idea imo
dfosterf (26-Apr) : 1st round to 7 minutes with one extension
dfosterf (26-Apr) : NFL comissioner wants to shorten the 2st
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : @jalenreagors They’re discussing if Sheduer can go back to college on NFL Network LMFAOOOOO
beast (26-Apr) : Great point Martha
beast (26-Apr) : Buddy Ryan used to say if a candy bar goes missing, there are two to blame, Rex and Rob 🤪 jk 😁
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Bum Phillips used to say there are two ways to get better. Get better players or get players to play better. We have a new DL coach
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Yes. Look at the losses last year. They can win.
beast (26-Apr) : Can Packers win with their current DL?
bboystyle (26-Apr) : waiting for a pass rusher.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes between picks in the 3rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 3rd. Hate this phone
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 4rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes in the 4
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 7 minutes between picks in the 2nd round
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : Sorry to bitch, but the headline writers in that section absolutely mislead, or don't know how to read. It is maddening
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : No thanks. Not a dependable guy to be in the right place and run the right route. Dumb as a box of rocks.
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : Losing 2nd round pick for a one year rental, not ideal. Especially a headcase.
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Pickens for Jaire may be interesting. Definitely not sure we want Pickens long term.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : No.Absolutely not
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : NO NO NO NO NO NO!!1 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
dhazer (25-Apr) : scenario: Our main prospects are off the board when our pick comes around, do we just throw a 2nd round pick at Pittsburgh for Pickens
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