I have no idea but I thought Chillar was going to be a starter at OLB with Kampman the first year when they said we were switching to a 3-4.

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So what would you predict would be the starting LB's week one of the regular season? as of right now. And/Or what would you like to see?

I would guess- Chillar-Hawk-Barnett-Matthews

I would like to see Bishop get more shots though! In Hawks place.

I like Chiller. I think he is a playmaker. Other than Matthews, I have not seen shit like that. My entire team spends what seems like their whole friggin' life emphasising the GD LB position--while every swinging richard--is connected in some way shape or form to LB's---

AND THEY ARE

FRIGGIN"

STILL

FRIGGIN'

MARGINAL--which is absolutely amazingly bad when you consider what percentage of resources have been POURED into those positions, to the detriment of others...


complete fail on the part of Ted Thompson and co.

Unfortunately, the subject matter was unavailable for serious commentary while the asswhipes debated the Brett thing.

I thought Ted should've drafted an OLB for depth this year if possible, but other than that, I can't find fault with his handling of the LB's. Three of them are first round draft picks, and we have six good players to man four positions. Like most people, I consider our LB's to be a strong position group overall.

I'm not sure why you're angry about the LB's, to the point of regarding them as a "complete fail." Even if you want a Pro Bowler at every LB position, our LB's are not a complete failure because we do have a Pro Bowler at one position.

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I'd like to take a crack at this using stats.

Last year, the LOLB (Kampman and Jones combined) were pretty even in terms of snaps they had to defend the run versus snaps where they had to rush the passer. Put differently, the LOLB's job is to defend the run just as much as it is to rush the passer.

Interestingly, last year the ROLB (which was Clay) had more snaps where he rushed the passer than he defended the run [stats courtesy Pro Football Focus]. In other words, the ROLB's main responsibility can be said to be rushing the passer over defending the run.

It's obvious that Chillar is not suited (built) for being the strongest in run D support. Maybe switching Clay to the left and Chillar to the right is a way to make the package with its particular players a bit better suited to playing run D? Maybe Chillar at ROLB makes him primarily a pass rusher, and that somewhat masks the problems he'd have in providing run support.


A huge problem right away with my conjecturing above is that it relies on only one year of Packer 3-4 D under Capers. Maybe the ROLB getting more pass rushing snaps was an aberration since Clay was on the right side and our best OLB pass-rusher. Or maybe Capers / other coaches want to try and minimize the weakness of the particular personnel players in this package. Capers has said his first priority is to take away the run, and in theory making the opponent one-dimensional should allow you to go to town on their behinds defense wise, because you have a much better idea of what plays are forthcoming.

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Since most QBs are right handed in the league, the ROLB would be rushing the blindside of the QB. Which is also why the LT is the better pass blocker of the tackles.


On moving Chillar to OLB im on the fence, does he move inside on third down? How many snaps does he then play compared to last year?

The reason he saw the field so much last year was his covering ability, if he stays outside on third down, we would be stuck with either Hawk og Bishop on the inside, which is what we didnt want to have happen last year. If they move him inside on third down, how does it help us bring pressure on the passing downs? Then Jones would be back in the OLB spot. If we didnt move him to increase the passrush on passing downs, why would we move him, since he most likely will be a liability in the run game, compared to Jones after he bulked up in the offseason (atleast i think i read that somewhere).


I think i like the move as a change of pace package, i think i prefer Jones as the starter, and my best guess is come week 1, he will be.

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I would take all these moves with a grain of salt. I think they're just moving guys around to see where they can play and/or get them some reps incase they have to move guys because of injuries.

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Agreed. But with that said I like the idea of Chillar getting the chance to be out on the field more. The Packers certainly should get their best 4 LB on the field as much as possible.

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