zombieslayer
14 years ago
Porky - For one, MN was lost by our D not pulling their weight. We scored 23 and 26 points, which should have been enough to win one of those games.

The other, weren't most of the problems from the Tackle positions, not the inside?

I really don't think the priority to making this a better team isn't the middle of our OL. I'm much more concerned about T Williams getting signed right now.
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Rockmolder
14 years ago

Porky - For one, MN was lost by our D not pulling their weight. We scored 23 and 26 points, which should have been enough to win one of those games.

The other, weren't most of the problems from the Tackle positions, not the inside?

I really don't think the priority to making this a better team isn't the middle of our OL. I'm much more concerned about T Williams getting signed right now.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I agree. But Porky brings up a good point. We're going up against some of the greatest DTs in the league. Two of them on one team in Minnesota's case.

To push these guys who are build as NTs you could use some good interior linemen. I don't think that Wells has the strength to do that. He's one of the most replacable guys on the line.

Again, I don't like to put Lang at guard. I don't want to screw around with his mechanics too much. Just keep him at RT, work him there. I can't see Tauscher holding on to that starting spot for very much longer. Plus, how good is Bulaga right now? He obviously looked very raw in OTAs, having a guy like Lang who can step in at either T spot and play at a decent level is quite important.

Clifton - Spitz - Wells - Sitton - Tauscher is still the line that I see starting this season.

It gives you good depth at the guard and tackle spots, with Spitz sliding to the center position if Wells goes down.

Like I said, Wells is replacable, but you have Sitton next to him who can handle guys like Tommie Harris by himself, which frees things up for Wells a bit.
PackerTraxx
14 years ago
Unless he would be willing to play for another team for a quite a bit less I would not be interested trading for him. And if I were to trade, a 3rd would be tops. We should be in a much better position this year. Our young linemen have more experience and should be better, if not we're in trouble. We are starting out with Clifton and Tauscher, not Barbe. And we drafted what looks to be a couple of good prospects.

All that being said, we should never pass up the chance to make our team better as long as the "price"($, player, pick) is somewhat reasonable.

Edit: We made that mistake by not trading a 4th for Moss and it likely cost us a SB.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago



I agree. But Porky brings up a good point. We're going up against some of the greatest DTs in the league. Two of them on one team in Minnesota's case.

To push these guys who are build as NTs you could use some good interior linemen. I don't think that Wells has the strength to do that. He's one of the most replacable guys on the line.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



No argument whatsoever there.

So...

Pass. Run 10-15% of the time and pass the rest of the time. MN's fatties aren't going to catch Aaron Rodgers. If I remember correctly, he was getting hit from the outside guys, mostly Jared Allen.

Play to your strengths. Cover up your weaknesses. Analyze your opponent and play to his weaknesses and don't let him play to his strengths.

MM did that in '07 and that was hands down his best year of playcalling.
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porky88
14 years ago

Porky - For one, MN was lost by our D not pulling their weight. We scored 23 and 26 points, which should have been enough to win one of those games.

The other, weren't most of the problems from the Tackle positions, not the inside?

I really don't think the priority to making this a better team isn't the middle of our OL.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I wouldn't let the average get in the way of the good.

I agree with Rock's prediction on what the staring lineup will look like. I was simply saying what I think it should look like. I just think the best way to counter the bigger and more powerful players the Packers go up against is to get big and nasty. I think the lineup I gave does that better than any combination of starters the Packers have. I also think it solidifies the interior line for the next decade.
Greg C.
14 years ago

Porky - For one, MN was lost by our D not pulling their weight. We scored 23 and 26 points, which should have been enough to win one of those games.

The other, weren't most of the problems from the Tackle positions, not the inside?

I really don't think the priority to making this a better team isn't the middle of our OL. I'm much more concerned about T Williams getting signed right now.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Most of those points were scored when the Packers were already so far behind that they had little chance to catch up, and seven of the first half points were on a fumble return by Clay Matthews.

I agree that most of the problems were with the tackles, but the interior OL was not great in those early games either. There is room for improvement there.

I don't want to see Lang move inside though. I think he is more valuable to us at the tackle position. And Mankins is demanding a ridiculous amount of money--money that would be better spent at other positions.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
Yes, that's what I'm getting at.

We have a limited supply of money. Some positions simply have to be "good enough" and I strongly think the middle of our OL is "good enough."
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