dhazer
14 years ago
Ok O-line help one hole, LB is another hole they have proven they can't cover shit, CB we are very weak and people are counting on an aging Harris to be healthy, and then we have a hole at saftey with Bigby. I'm not being negative just using what everyone else is saying in different threads. We are strong with starting wrs and qb and TE. Our defense was vastly over rated last year and we saw what happened when we played teams that knew how to beat a 3-4 defense.

BTW isn't this a discussion and that means look at something both ways not just one way like this thread is.
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Stevetarded
14 years ago
[quote="dhazer"]I could almost guarantee that if Ted Thompson was offered the 1st 3 rounds of picks by the Rams just for Rodgers he would jump on it in a heartbeat.

I would have traded Favre if that would have came up also. I'm thinking a GM would be out of his mind not to do it when you have some major holes on your team.

I would love to know what some actual sports writers and experts would say about it instead of alot of homers. At this rate I see us being the Chargers of the 80's with Dan Fouts with having alot of yards but no championships to go with it.[/quote]

Or you mean like the 2000s Packers
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Pack93z
14 years ago

Ok O-line help one hole, LB is another hole they have proven they can't cover shit, CB we are very weak and people are counting on an aging Harris to be healthy, and then we have a hole at saftey with Bigby. I'm not being negative just using what everyone else is saying in different threads. We are strong with starting wrs and qb and TE. Our defense was vastly over rated last year and we saw what happened when we played teams that knew how to beat a 3-4 defense.

BTW isn't this a discussion and that means look at something both ways not just one way like this thread is.

"dhazer" wrote:



LOL.. most of my rant was in humor.. or an attempt anyway...

Of course we should be objective about our team.. so lets explore your list.

Oline.. not arguing.. I stated that several times up to and though last season.. having Mark and Chad from day one will help but we are still short handed overall.

Another OLB... people seem to forget that Matthews and Jones were rookies.. Matthews performed well past expectations.. and Jones held his own.. while I agree that we need to beef up the depth and competition there.. it isn't like we are bare either.. don't sleep on Obiozor either...

CB are weak?... without Harris we still have a strong pair.. Williams and Woodson... Harris is an insurance policy.. Underwood will improve.. book it. The rest are a collection of IR reports and what ifs... so I give you depth as a issue... proven depth.

S... Look at my posts.. I think a Safety to pair with Collins is of the utmost importance.. but if we fail to land an impact player in the draft, I think we can win with Bigby there for the greater part.. but if we truly want to become a great defense... no doubt we need a safety that can communicate effectively and has a high football IQ.. something we have been lacking in our safeties..

But really look at that list.. there isn't a team in football that doesn't have a comparable list.. Especially in April... we have the draft and then filling in holes through the summer..
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British
14 years ago
If we were the Lions, a team that genuinely has 'holes' it might begin to make sense to trade a QB like Rodgers.

But for all the talk the Pack don't have many holes. We have a lack of depth at a couple of positions (OT, DB, LOLB) but we we have serviceable players for each of those positions.

Some teams need the draft to provide Day 1 starters at vital positions, we need upgrades in certain areas and future starters who will most likely sit for a year.

They might feel like 'needs' to us but they are not glaring needs compared to the vast majority of the league.
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RaiderPride
14 years ago

I could almost guarantee that if Ted Thompson was offered the 1st 3 rounds of picks by the Rams just for Rodgers he would jump on it in a heartbeat.

"dhazer" wrote:



So Ted agrees with you, and you are both on the same page?


Great minds think alike. Kind of like J Edgar Hoover and Clyde Tolson.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago

Just for fun... And I am curious about the answers that will come forward here....

In a fun way of asking a question in a different manner (Instead of what is the value of Aaron Rodgers.) here is the question...

If the Rams offered their First, Second, and Third picks in this years draft plus K. Bollor would you take the trade?

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The QB is the most important position in the NFL. You do NOT give up an elite QB, especially if they're young. Rodgers is young.
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dhazer
14 years ago

I could almost guarantee that if Ted Thompson was offered the 1st 3 rounds of picks by the Rams just for Rodgers he would jump on it in a heartbeat.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



So Ted agrees with you, and you are both on the same page?


Great minds think alike. Kind of like J Edgar Hoover and Clyde Tolson.

"dhazer" wrote:




Maybe I am Ted Thompson lol look at the roast and you will see my transformation :P


BTW did anyone start that thread at PPO and have the link to show what they say?
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voiceofreason
14 years ago
NO WAY! Ted Thompson would give up Rodgers for the 1-3 picks. #1 - Rodgers is his boy, his first and most important impact on the team. #2 - If Ditka would give up an entire draft + future 1st for sticky ricky, no way Ted Thompson (who is intelligent contrary to the belief of some) gives up anything less for arguably the best 2nd year starter QB in the history of the NFL.
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earthquake
14 years ago
Yeah the thought that a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd would do the job is just ridiculous, lets be honest here, you dont trade young, pro-bowl franchise QBs... EVER, When has it happened? Its impossible to tell how high the market is, but it is high enough that it has *never freaking happened* in the history of the league. If the cost of a pro-bowl QB going into his prime was this, every other year a QB starved team would make this trade.

Who cares if its the 1st overall pick? You're taking an unproven player and giving him a higher Salary than your young pro-bowl QB, there is not a single GM in the league who would take this deal.
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Trippster
14 years ago
I'll take your five 1st rounders and add 5 more.

Rodgers (barring injury) is golden for at least 10 years.

Odds are we would be lucky to get someone that good in 1 out of ten tries.



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