nickb364
15 years ago
Excuse me?


Daryn Colledge is reportedly "furious" with the Packers for tendering him at just the second-round level.
Welcome to restricted free agent bizarro world, starring Colledge and Raiders owner Al Davis. Colledge blames the Packers for his putrid play last season, complaining that learning multiple positions hurt his development. Though he'd prefer to leave Green Bay, he's unlikely to draw free agent interest. Mar. 4 - 10:55 am et
Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel



http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=3698&line=168821&spln=1 
Pack93z
15 years ago
Give it a couple minutes for Foster to absorb all this.. then round 2. ;)

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/86346612.html 

Are Packers headed for more offensive line turmoil?
By Greg A. Bedard of the Journal Sentinel

March 4, 2010 9:25 a.m. |(57) Comments

Green Bay - Close your eyes for a second and imagine this:

In the 2010 season opener, the starting offensive line for the Green Bay Packers goes like this: left tackle T.J. Lang, left guard Mike Iupati (rookie), center Scott Wells, right guard Josh Sitton and right tackle Allen Barbre.

Backups? Breno Giacomini, Stanley Daniels, Evan Dietrich-Smith, and a few draft picks.

The league-leading 51 sacks the Packers gave up last season might not look that bad.

With 13 hours left before the start of free agency, the possibility is there that the Packers could be without four players that started games on the offensive line last season: left tackle Chad Clifton, right tackle Mark Tauscher, guard Jason Spitz and left guard Daryn Colledge.

How likely is it that all four players will not return? Not very. The Packers have gotten the reputation the past few years of not showing any indication of getting a deal done, and then all of a sudden flipping a switch and doing the deal.

But could most of them not return? Possibly.

If Clifton is going to be back next season, that contract scenario is going to have to unfold again. Because as it stands right now, a contract for the 10-year veteran that has started 106 of the last 112 regular-season games the Packers have played is not in close to fruition.

Tauscher, whose return last season solidified the line last year in coach Mike McCarthy's opinion, will only be back by the start of free agency at 11:01 p.m. CT if his coach gets his way.

General manager Ted Thompson wanted to move on from Tauscher last season. But Barbre fell on his face and opened the door for Tauscher's return.

Thompson wants to do the same thing this year -- with either Lang or Giacomini taking Tauscher's spot -- but McCarthy has been pushing for Tauscher's return privately.

The Packers' trump card with both Spitz and Colledge, who are both restricted free agents, is that they can match any offer another team may make.

But most NFL observers expect the poison pill -- a provision in a contract that makes it monetarily impossible for the player's former team to match an offer -- to return this season.

That being said, it's hard to see a team getting that creative for a player in Spitz who, while talented and healthy, is coming off back surgery. And in Colledge, any team would be getting a player that has been up and down since he entered the league.

But it would not be surprising if a team came after Spitz. On draft day after his rookie season, at least one team offered the Packers multiple later-round picks for Spitz.

As for Colledge, privately he is furious with the Packers. He expected a first-round tender and likely did not get it (Colledge said on Boise radio last night he thought it was a second-round tender).

"If it's a second round, maybe I have a chance to move," Colledge said on KTIK. "Maybe I could be coming to a city near you."

Make no mistake, Colledge would like to leave Green Bay and his agent will be working hard to get a team to offer him a contract. He is tired of being forced to play multiple positions, which Colledge feels has hurt his development.

It's not a coincidence that the two best players on the offensive line last season were right guard Josh Sitton and center Scott Wells. Both have played the same position almost exclusively since joining the Packers.

Other players know that very well. That is why Colledge is not alone in his displeasure with the way the Packers have handled their offensive line.

And it's part of the reason why the Packers could be headed for a line reckoning.

Again, a lot of that is worst-case scenario.

Here's the most likely scenario:

* Packers cave on Clifton this afternoon, knowing they have no other options at left tackle.
* Tauscher is allowed to go free. Door still open to his return depending on what happens in draft.
* Spitz gets an offer but Packers match.
* Colledge gets no offers and has to sign his tender, so he reluctantly returns to the Packers.

But the point is the Packers have left themselves in a precarious position. After what they've gone through since Mike Wahle and Marco Rivera had to be let go to stay under the cap, you have to wonder why the Packers would even dance with this devil?

But here we are, and you can hear the music.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
flep
15 years ago
As the saying goes

"If he doesn't want to play for the packers"

"Stuff him"

O/L is our major concern, granted.

But if he goes, we move on.
Formed Merseyside Nighthawks. British Champions 1992. Packer fan for 32 years



I feel very wrong now!!!!!!!!!
dfosterf
15 years ago
:sign5: I posted the article a full three minutes before you in the stir the pot Ted thread.


lol
Pack93z
15 years ago

:sign5: I posted the article a full three minutes before you in the stir the pot Ted thread.


lol

"dfosterf" wrote:



I should have known.. this subject tends to wind you up... up next Shrek goes haywire. ;)


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Frankly, I think Colledge has a point. One can make a pretty decent case that our line has been mismanaged and that it's retarded his development.
dfosterf
15 years ago
Bedard seems to think that we are blowing right the f#ck by "extremely troubling" and going with "full-blown-fiasco" status in one fell swoop, on the eve of free agency, no less.

I wonder if Boldin or Tebow can play guard or tackle?


:sign5:
Pack93z
15 years ago

Frankly, I think Colledge has a point. One can make a pretty decent choice that our line has been mismanaged and that it's retarded his development.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



There is no doubt about it.. that he has a case for it.

You don't see other teams in the league playing musical chairs with the lineman like we have... and quite honestly with the way we have developed guys I could see his point. I have said back to the 07 season against the Cowboys that we, under Campen, are failing to develop guys that can play and the only time at that point that they came out and played was when we sat their asses on the sideline.. then it seemed to light a fire..

With that being said.. I think it is bullshit that you have to lay blame there for your own failings as a player.. your the one that straps on that helmet every week and gets your ass handed to you in one on one battles.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
RainX
15 years ago

Frankly, I think Colledge has a point. One can make a pretty decent choice that our line has been mismanaged and that it's retarded his development.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



It's a good point admittedly, but do you see Jason Spitz going out there and complaining to the media about getting the same tender and being in a similar situation?

Colledge has had a very up and down career, but at this stage, the guy needs to shut his mouth and get to work and try to keep his job that is going to be up for grabs in training camp or he could be finding himself riding the pine backing up Spitz and Sitton.

It's the economics of the business, and he should be thankful he's getting a mid-level tender (albeit through some wonky rules) instead of the lowest one which is the one a lot of people thought he'd be getting.

I think the Packers need to stop shuffling around their young players to much and stick with primary starters and backups at respective positions instead of shuffling starters around if an injury were to happen to one. That being said though, going out to the media and basically blaming the team for your poor play last year seems laughable at best. Especially considering you played the majority of snaps at LG anyways last year, the position you've primarily played in Green Bay since you were drafted.
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dfosterf
15 years ago

Frankly, I think Colledge has a point. One can make a pretty decent choice that our line has been mismanaged and that it's retarded his development.

"pack93z" wrote:



There is no doubt about it.. that he has a case for it.

You don't see other teams in the league playing musical chairs with the lineman like we have... and quite honestly with the way we have developed guys I could see his point. I have said back to the 07 season against the Cowboys that we, under Campen, are failing to develop guys that can play and the only time at that point that they came out and played was when we sat their asses on the sideline.. then it seemed to light a fire..

With that being said.. I think it is bullshit that you have to lay blame there for your own failings as a player.. your the one that straps on that helmet every week and gets your ass handed to you in one on one battles.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



...And we institutionalized musical chairs. We would list backups for one position when they were starting at another. On a team with 3 fullbacks and GD Bush on it.

O line fail


Colledge can whine all he wants. He lacks consistency, and he was given a HUGE leash to go along with the position movements, but he seems to be forgetting that aspect.

I have not. He has failed, imo
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