HC LaFleur's Offensive Philosophy· Page 2

gbguy20
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#11

You're not using the ignore function properly, oh Superior One.

beast
Select Member

5 years ago

#12

It is true that I did not understand about HC LaFleur's offensive philosophy, but then I found the ESPN article that explained it to me.

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Just to be clear, you're suggesting you read one single article, and learned out the entire system?

So in one article, you went from trying to correct me that we know nothing about the system, to correcting me that your an expert on the system?

So how can one say just what players GB's offense should pursue without knowing about how it will operate.

Originally Posted by: Smokey

I didn't say a thing about the Packers pursing in that thread... clearly it says "we could look at some of the FAs "... and "I'm looking at" ... it clearly said I'm LOOKING... Why? Because it's almost the offseason... and we got nothing else to do, and you're criticizing it for some strange reason...

Also just because you don't know something, doesn't mean that's true for others... I don't think any of fully understand this new system, but there are certain aspects that some of us are fairly certain on.

My newly acquired understanding of GB's new offensive sys. has allowed me to feel confident about this.

Originally Posted by: Smokey

That's great that you're confident... but when sharing your new great found knowledge, you could simply state your knowledge... and not have a belittling statement talking about how others don't know something.... especially when you have no clue of what the other person does or doesn't know...

Also the last time you were confidently trying to explain scheme to me... was that DL Clark doesn't belong at NT and DL Ringo should be the starting NT (which you got pretty pissed for telling you, that it's backwards)... so confident means nothing if the statements aren't correct.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#13

Beast, we don't respond when we're challenged around here, we just ignore it or leave and hope it goes away/pretend it didn't happen. And by we I mean...

beast
Select Member

5 years ago

#14

Beast, we don't respond when we're challenged around here, we just ignore it or leave and hope it goes away/pretend it didn't happen. And by we I mean...

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

I did ignore him the first time, when he wrongly assumed we all knew absolutely nothing about the new scheme and therefore couldn't talk about LOOKING at possible FAs during the Packers offseason...

Then he became an expert, talking down to me about how he completely understands the system... and that just made me wonder, how the heck he went from one extreme to the other...

And I'm still in a bit of shock that he seemed to suggest he feels he confident learn an entire system from one article that only covers two plays... that's just unbelievable!

gbguy20
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: beast

I wasn't referring to you. Just noticing how somebody disappeared from the thread as soon as he was challenged

ArkansasPacker
Rookie

5 years ago

#16

A good read here

http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/46728/lafleur-hackett-plan-run-the-ball-then-let-aaron-rodgers-go-play

I like it. We all know Aaron is one of the best, and with a solid running game I believe it will make him just that much better, and even more dangerous.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

5 years ago

#17

"Certainly I want to be in that quarterback room as much as possible and the goal is to be there all the time," LaFleur said on ESPN Milwaukee. "I realize as the head coach there's going to be things that come up that you have to take care of, but I entrust that [Hackett] and I have the same vision for the quarterback and we'll be on the same page."

This quote concerns me a bit. I know Sean McVay has had a great deal of success as quarterback whisperer in St. Louis, but Aaron Rodgers isn't twenty-three years old. I want a head coach who is overseeing the whole team and who trusts his assistants enough not to micromanage. If LaFleur is spending all his time in the quarterback room, how can we be confident the rest of the team is getting due attention? To put it another way, if what LaFleur really wants is to be an offensive coordinator, why take the head-coaching gig?

beast
Select Member

5 years ago

#18

To put it another way, if what LaFleur really wants is to be an offensive coordinator, why take the head-coaching gig?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

Because that's the modern NFL way and he has realized it... 3 of the final 4 playoffs teams have their head coach acting as OC and calling plays.

And I'm not completely sure, but I think 6 of the final 8 teams, and 8 of the playoffs 12 teams. Of the four that don't, two are the oldest NFL head coaches (and they're from defense, Patriots and Seahawks), while the Ravens head coach is from ST and Chargers have the only offensive coach that has the OC call the plays.

Edit: Looks like I'm mistake, Jason Garrett is no longer calling plays for the Cowboys. Of course they just fired their play caller too. And Jerry Jones is telling the public he's got to give Garrett an extension because he'd be in such high demand as a FA, despite PFT pointing out the last time he was, there was no publicly known rumors of demand.

This is all about supply and demand

Talented OC have so low supply, but such high demand that teams try to protect them from being stolen by other teams, only way to do that is make them the head coach.

This is the way the modern NFL is currently going

I want a head coach who is overseeing the whole team and who trusts his assistants enough not to micromanage. If LaFleur is spending all his time in the quarterback room, how can we be confident the rest of the team is getting due attention?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

Also these two things to contradict... as if he's in the QB room (where he currently has no assistant) then isn't he trusting the assistants he does have enough not to micromanage them?

And how can be confident the rest of the team is getting due attention in the old system? Under Mike McCarthy and Sherman, fans complained about the defense a whole lot.... of course they called plays. But fans complained about the Seahawks offense, and there are calls the Chargers should fire their offensive play caller... so there is no way to be confident other than blind trust and based off results (which currently we have none).

nerdmann
Premier Member

5 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

DeShone is pretty young. 😎

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

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