Mucky Tundra
6 years ago

I can't remember where I heared this, but a guy who's analyzed nearly every snap Gary had taken stated that that's not really true. Couldn't win one on one, either, because the only thing he knows how to do is a bull rush.

If anything, the 1-on-1 highlights in that post prove it. Doesn't get by his man on technique once there.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



Yeah the lack of technique did jump out at me. It's either run through the guy or run around him. He may have been doubled a lot, but you'd like him to beat them once in a while too.

I dunno, everything I've read about him from that coaching staff and harbaugh specifically sounds like they absolutely loved the guy.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Maybe abrasive was the wrong word? I guess what I was getting at with Harbaugh is his super intense, 110% all the time, rah rah coaching style may not have been what Gary needed at times.
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

UserPostedImage Green Bay Packers: Rashan Gary, DE/DT, Michigan D Grade
I can't really get behind this pick. Rashan Gary is insanely athletic and physically talented, but he was a huge disappointment as a player in Michigan. He also has some off-the-field concerns. There was speculation that Gary would fall to the 20s, which would've been a reasonable spot to select him. Not here, though. This is a major reach. If Gary couldn't produce in college, why would that suddenly happen when he has an NFL contract?

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6 years ago
Alright I have used Walter as a source of information for years but he is talking out of both sides of his mouth.

Just a little more than a WEEK ago he says this on his big board: 

Top-10 Prospects:
6. Rashan Gary, DT, Michigan. Previously: 6 Avg. 8 per 32
04/17/19: Gary had an excellent combine, displaying serious speed and athleticism with ideal size. He ran the 40 in 4.58 seconds and looked very good in the field drills. Despite being hurt for a lot of 2018, Gary decided to skip Michigan's bowl game against Florida after announcing his decision to declare for the 2019 NFL Draft.

Gary notched five tackles with one for a loss versus Ohio State. After missing three games with a shoulder issue - specifically, an AC joint sprain -, Gary returned to the field against Penn State and made two tackles. Previously, he had one tackle for a loss against Maryland and played through an injury he suffered against Northwestern. All night against Notre Dame in the season opener, Gary burned the Fighting Irish offensive tackles and put steady hits on quarterback Brandon Wimbush. Gary totaled four tackles with .5 for a loss, but he played much better than the stat line indicates. In 2018, he totaled 43 tackles with 7.5 for a loss and 3.5 sacks.



So which is it? Is he a top 10 pick displaying serious speed and athleticism with ideal size? Or was he a huge disappointment in college that won't do that well in the pros? It sounds like Walter is playing both sides against the middle so no matter what happens he can thump his chest and declare he was correct in his evaluation.

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gbguy20
6 years ago

Alright I have used Walter as a source of information for years but he is talking out of both sides of his mouth.

Just a little more than a WEEK ago he says this on his big board: 



So which is it? Is he a top 10 pick displaying serious speed and athleticism with ideal size? Or was he a huge disappointment in college that won't do that well in the pros? It sounds like Walter is playing both sides against the middle so no matter what happens he can thump his chest and declare he was correct in his evaluation.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



haha! I love catching people doing this shit. fuck off Walter you bandwagon jumper you.
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nerdmann
6 years ago
3/4 of the pass rushers coming out of college need to develop more moves.

If the dude had all the moves and knew how to use his hands but still couldn't get home, that would be a concern. This is the opposite of that.
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6 years ago
Draft is over
Nothing to talk about till TC.
These guys are going to print shit because if they don't, they will be fired and someone else will do it.
Why are some of you listening and reacting to this crap?

Gutey made his choices.
Now its up to Lefleur and Co. to devlope and use them as they want.

57%.....The number of 1st rnd draft picks that pan out.

The number drops after that.

We'll see how Gutey did in about 3 years.

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beast
6 years ago
I could be mistaken, but I see Gary being used as an edge just like Wilkerson was at times. He can power rush the outside, hold the edge, or have him rush to the inside of the OT causing the OT to drop in, creating up a great blitzing lane, where the OT normally is (but instead they're both more towards the inside).

Also on passing down, I think you could bet on either Gary and/or Za'Darius being used some as a pass rushing interior linemen... like Wilkerson.

With Za'Darius Smith, Preston Smith and Gary, they're basically replacing/trying to upgrade Matthews, Perry and Wilkerson.

After Wilkerson and Perry went down, they even had DT Daniels as an edge rusher for a game until I believe he also got injured...


Pettine really likes those physical edge rushers that can both do the normal edge stuff, but also be sent up the middle and hold their own in the physicality of the interior of the line, and have an blitzer come in clean off to hold/blitz the edge.
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6 years ago

I could be mistaken, but I see Gary being used as an edge just like Wilkerson was at times. He can power rush the outside, hold the edge, or have him rush to the inside of the OT causing the OT to drop in, creating up a great blitzing lane, where the OT normally is (but instead they're both more towards the inside).

Also on passing down, I think you could bet on either Gary and/or Za'Darius being used some as a pass rushing interior linemen... like Wilkerson.

With Za'Darius Smith, Preston Smith and Gary, they're basically replacing/trying to upgrade Matthews, Perry and Wilkerson.

After Wilkerson and Perry went down, they even had DT Daniels as an edge rusher for a game until I believe he also got injured...


Pettine really likes those physical edge rushers that can both do the normal edge stuff, but also be sent up the middle and hold their own in the physicality of the interior of the line, and have an blitzer come in clean off to hold/blitz the edge.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Add Keke to that rotation. He's built the same way, plays hard.
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