Pack no better than Lions without Rodgers

British
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13 years ago

http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20101214/PKR07/101214140/Pete-Dougherty-column-Without-Rodgers-Packers-no-better-than-Lions

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gbpfan
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13 years ago

He madw some good points but I think Flynn is a good q.b yes he made a very bad throw,but he moved the ball well I would rather have him than what the lions have.

nerdmann
Premier Member

13 years ago

Flynn did more than Rodgers did.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Porforis
Veteran Member

13 years ago

Flynn did more than Rodgers did.

"nerdmann" wrote:

One of those statements that says something but ultimately means nothing. Yes, it's true. No, there's not a chance in hell Rodgers wouldn't have done better than Flynn through a whole game. In addition, Flynn's pick was all his fault, Rodgers' pick bounced off Greg's hands.

As for gbpfan's comment, Flynn is not a good QB. Not to say that he never will be a good QB, but I've yet to see good, consistent play from him.

warhawk
Senior Member

13 years ago

I really wonder how these reporters get these thoughts in their heads and just go with something that is completely meritless IMO.

How about a Headline like "When Packers Oline plays like a Division III college team they are no better than the Lions."

Forget that Rodgers should have slid and ask why was he running in the first place? Why? Because he was getting totally pounded by the Detroit front 4. That's right the WHOLE front 4, and worse, nothing BUT the front 4.

Detroit never had to bring anybody other than those four and the D just sat back in their base D most of the day and watched the front 4 destroy anything we tried to do.

We average 25 points a game and couldn't do squat against a team we've beaten before that did NOTHING differently than what they have been doing.

This game had nothing to do with the QB's and EVERYTHING to do with the offensive line and I don't think this idiot even mentioned ONCE how absolutely piss poor that unit played Sunday.

Sorry, but if our Oline plays even marginally well Sunday we win this game WITH EITHER GUY.

"The train is leaving the station."

nerdmann
Premier Member

13 years ago

We play down (or up?) to the level of our opponents regardless of who the QB is.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

British
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13 years ago

"warhawk" wrote:

I think all Dougherty was doing was assessing the quality of the two rosters and saying the Lions are much better than their record and reputation suggests. With the playmakers they have if you put Rodgers on their team they become a playoff contender, if you put Stanton on ours we become a .500 team.

It may be an obvious point but he's not knocking the Pack, he's saying what an asset Rodgers is at the game's most important position.

Greg C.
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13 years ago

I think the author makes a valid point, although he is probably going too far. His theory will be tested if Matthew Stafford gets healthy and stays healthy and develops into a top-tier QB. Let's just hope that Aaron Rodgers gets healthy and stays healthy so that the other half of the theory is not put to the test.

The quality of QB play makes a big difference in a team's fortunes. It's an obvious point, and maybe we hear it more than we need to, but it's basically true. There are more exceptions than usual this year, with Kyle Orton and Carson Palmer--two decent QBs--on very bad teams, but year-in and year-out, the pattern is very strong.

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go.pack.go.
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13 years ago

Flynn did more than Rodgers did.

"Porforis" wrote:

As for gbpfan's comment, Flynn is not a good QB. Not to say that he never will be a good QB, but I've yet to see good, consistent play from him.

"nerdmann" wrote:

Probably because this is the first time he has seen extensive playing time with the starters. Kind of hard to be consistent when you've only ever played roughly 2 or 3 quarters total in your career.

Porforis
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#10

Flynn did more than Rodgers did.

"go.pack.go." wrote:

As for gbpfan's comment, Flynn is not a good QB. Not to say that he never will be a good QB, but I've yet to see good, consistent play from him.

"Porforis" wrote:

Probably because this is the first time he has seen extensive playing time with the starters. Kind of hard to be consistent when you've only ever played roughly 2 or 3 quarters total in your career.

"nerdmann" wrote:

http://www.nfl.com/players/craignall/profile?id=NAL385627

^ Good backup.

I understand how valuable practicing and playing with starters can be, but as a backup you're still expected to come in and do what you can to help you team win. While Flynn did move the ball, he did make a critical mistake that cost our team the game. Saying "well, he's just a backup" or making other excuses for him kind of enrages me. I don't expect him to be perfect, or even average, but Flynn has yet to show me ANYTHING besides a few flashes here and there.

Good backups come off the bench, make a few mistakes, but ultimately score some points and put their team in a position to win.

Now, if you want to start arguing about how any backup could be expected to perform behind this O Line, I'll give you that. But as a general rule of thumb, you have to expect your backups to be able to be at least workable off the bench.

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