Zero2Cool
2 months ago

True. But in fairness, look how fast our own fanbase can turn like a python on MLF.
For example, it's announced that he is interviewing Brandon Staley for DC.

Interviewing, not hiring, mind you.

1 second before reading about that, I'm convinced he is one of the great minds in football. 1 second after reading that, I'm like, "... what the f--- is this idiot doing interviewing that pos, he has failed to hire... yada yada yada
All quite unfair, and certainly not alone in being unfair.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



I think interviewing is done for several reasons.
  • To fill the position
  • To help keep someone's name afloat
  • To gain information


Staley, I think was more so to let the NFL know he's interested and because of their previous working relationship. I really don't think Staley is in line for the DC job.
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beast
2 months ago

I think interviewing is done for several reasons.

  • To fill the position
  • To help keep someone's name afloat
  • To gain information


Staley, I think was more so to let the NFL know he's interested and because of their previous working relationship. I really don't think Staley is in line for the DC job.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


To get past the Rooney Rule...

I think a lot depends on how LaFleur feels about the Vic Fangio system now, 3 years ago he loved it, and if he still loves it, I think Staley very much is still a serious candidate, as Staley ran it great while with the Rams, and I don't think the Packers have a system problem, but a play caller problem, and some of the finer details problem.


Plus they doubled down last year bringing in so many one gap under sized DTs, that are better suited for the Vic Fangio scheme.




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2 months ago

Houston's DeMeco Ryans
Detroit's Dan Campbell
San Francisco's Kyle Shanahan
Baltimore's John Harbaugh
Cleveland's Kevin Stefanski

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I sincerely hope Ryans wins it at this point.

Campbell should not win it after the incredibly stupid decisions made in the NFC Championship which cost the Lions the game (yes, the drops and fumbles did not help.)

But not kicking the FG with 7:00 left in the game on 4th & 1 was momentum shifting game changing, meat-headed decision. They could have gone up 17 and killed the small amount of momentum SF had built.

Remarkably dumb.

Go Packers!!!!
Zero2Cool
2 months ago

I sincerely hope Ryans wins it at this point.

Campbell should not win it after the incredibly stupid decisions made in the NFC Championship which cost the Lions the game (yes, the drops and fumbles did not help.)

But not kicking the FG with 7:00 left in the game on 4th & 1 was momentum shifting game changing, meat-headed decision. They could have gone up 17 and killed the small amount of momentum SF had built.

Remarkably dumb.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


I didn't watch the games so I can't speak on it. However, going aggressive is what he's known for and it's what got them there. 🤷‍♂️

You don't change your identity when you're 4 quarters away from the Super Bowl. (I read Ravens averaged like 28-30 rush attempts a game, and vs Chiefs ran it six times? That true? my gosh)

Besides, I saw quite a few Tweeter's bemoaning the Packers for kicking FG's in red zone and going for it on 4th down. You can't win with crybabies.
When Packers kicked the FG's the loud cry was "you won't beat 49ers with FG's, need TD's".
When the Packers tried on that 4th and 1 and failed, "should have taken the points".
When Carlson missed 41 yard FG, "Packers lost because of kicker".

I will say this though. You are onto something about momentum. Do you want to gently put a foot on the throat, or stomp on the throat? Or in Matt LaFleur terms, do you want hot piss or mild piss. Do you wanna be all gas no brakes, or some gas, some brakes.

I would say for me it's more about the play call that matters more to me than going for it. If it's 4th and 1 on the 7 yard line and you do a Jet Sweep, slap yourself silly. Same scenario, but you do a QB rollout with a TE leak or RB in flat, I'm good with that. But if you're gonna run a dumbass play, just kick take the FG attempt.
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2 months ago
Zero2Cool wrote:

You don't change your identity when you're 4 quarters away from the Super Bowl.
...
I will say this though. You are onto something about momentum. Do you want to gently put a foot on the throat, or stomp on the throat? Or in Matt LaFleur terms, do you want hot piss or mild piss. Do you wanna be all gas no brakes, or some gas, some brakes.


Only a fool does not recognize his mistakes, and just because he did something all year, does not make it right. His unwise decisions really aided the Packers on Thanksgiving day.

Let's face it, he let is balls do the thinking for his brains. You need to balance risk taking with Chutzpah to be successful in football.

I would say for me it's more about the play call that matters more to me than going for it. .

The first decision has to be whether to go for it. That, in and of itself is the most important decision, irrespective of the play call. Good results don't make a bad decision a good one....results don't equal right.

I will say this though. You are onto something about momentum. Do you want to gently put a foot on the throat, or stomp on the throat? Or in Matt LaFleur terms, do you want hot piss or mild piss. Do you wanna be all gas no brakes, or some gas, some brakes.

Choice 1 go up 3 scores with a high percentage field goal
Choice 2 go up 3 scores with a mid range percentage touchdown drive (even IF you make it on 4th down)
Choice 3 give them momentum and be up only 2 scores

Its an easy choice.

Go Packers!!!!
Zero2Cool
2 months ago

Its an easy choice.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


Yep it's easy for us to armchair QB. They lose by 4 points, then we slam him for kicking FG's. You can't beat the high powered 49ers with FG's!!!! You need to get TD's to win!!!
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2 months ago

Yep it's easy for us to armchair QB. They lose by 4 points, then we slam him for kicking FG's. You can't beat the high powered 49ers with FG's!!!! You need to get TD's to win!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

It is easy, and it was not second guessing. I was saying it (as were most of the people I was watching the game with.)

You don't take unnecessary risk without compensatory reward...and it just wasn't there.

It was a dumb call.

Go Packers!!!!
Zero2Cool
2 months ago
AP Coach of the Year
Stefanski wins with more 1st place votes

  1. Kevin Stefanski 21-18-6 = 165
  2. DeMeco Ryans 20-21-2 = 165
  3. Dan Campbell 3-3-9 = 33
  4. Kyle Shanahan 3-3-2 = 26
  5. John Harbaugh 2-2-10 = 26
  6. Sean McVay 1-2-10 = 21
  7. Mike Tomlin 0-1-2 = 5
  8. Shane Steichen 0-0-4 = 4
  9. Matt LaFleur 0-0-2 = 2
  10. Todd Bowles 0-0-1 = 1
  11. Mike McDaniel 0-0-1 = 1
  12. Sean McDermott 0-0-1 = 1

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beast
2 months ago

AP Coach of the Year
Stefanski wins with more 1st place votes

  1. Kevin Stefanski 21-18-6 = 165
  2. DeMeco Ryans 20-21-2 = 165
  3. Dan Campbell 3-3-9 = 33
  4. Kyle Shanahan 3-3-2 = 26
  5. John Harbaugh 2-2-10 = 26
  6. Sean McVay 1-2-10 = 21
  7. Mike Tomlin 0-1-2 = 5
  8. Shane Steichen 0-0-4 = 4
  9. Matt LaFleur 0-0-2 = 2
  10. Todd Bowles 0-0-1 = 1
  11. Mike McDaniel 0-0-1 = 1
  12. Sean McDermott 0-0-1 = 1

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


I think they should of said screw it, and given it to both Stefanski and Ryans, they both did what some would of thought was impossible.

For Ryans, a one year turn around of the Texans (though they are in a weak division) but people were talking about them having a top 5 pick for another year.

For Stefanski, Browns made the playoffs despite losing their star RB, star QB, I think backup QB, and getting Joe Flacco off the streets to have a 4-1 record.

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