Since69
14 years ago
Heck, I'd put Swain on the trade block right now and try to keep Chery and Dillon. At least Dillon's looked good this preseason...

Swain just seems to be walking wounded all the time. And I'd want Chery more for his return skills than any real "need" for a 6th WR.

Just seems to me that we haven't had a good, dangerous return man since Desmond Howard...
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14 years ago

To expect Chery to be amazing after he took his one and only punt return for a touchdown is a misguided foresight. McCarthy placed a lot of expectations and pressure on him by announcing he would be returning ALL punts. The guy is a bit green yet, and I definitely think he should stick around for a few more weeks. He isn't an immediate answer, but I believe he can be developed into a good returner.

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I think it is safe to say McCarthy knows that he can not judge a player by one return alone. That is why he gave Chery more opportunities. Even 1 or 2 returns last nite would not have been enough to judge him. Mc C didn't do it to put unwarranted pressure on him. But if Chery can't handle the pressure of a preseason game I don't think he can handle the pressure of a tie game, 4th quarter and he is standing on the 10 yard line.
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British
14 years ago
I just don't see Chery being claimed off waivers. He's an inferior WR to Swain, Williams, Dillon and probably West. What team is going to make room on their 53 man roster for him? I say none. Therefore we just stick him on the PS and give him a longer look in practice as a returner. If he starts lighting it up then we can activate him to the full roster. If we keep Chery one of these possibly has to be cut: Crabtree, EDS, QJ, Korey Hall, Lumpkin, Swain.
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Greg C.
14 years ago
I don't think Chery will even make the practice squad. There is only room for eight players on it, and Dillon and Williams are both better prospects at WR. I don't think it's worth it to use one of those spots for a player who had one good punt return in the preseason but was otherwise unimpressive.
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nerdmann
14 years ago

Take a look at Jon Ryan. This punter (Now in Seattle) was let go because the Packers thought he may give up two many blocked punts based on his delivery and his number of steps to the punt.

Ryan is now a pro bowl punter with the Seahawks. The Seahawks were not concerned with what the Packers were concerned with, and it worked out for them and Jon.

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Ryan was let go because he shanked too many punts and kicked too many touch backs. Also because the ST remember the glory days of Frost where he had good leg strength and touch on his punts and not what the current film showed of Frost.

Also Ryan asked permission to go see a punting expert, who some have claimed is the top punting expert out there (other say top 3... I have no clue but he sounds good). The ST coach (or someone in the Packers) said no to letting him go train a week with the expert. He was then cut at the end of training camp.

Guess what? ... after being cut he goes to see the punting expert... guess what... he rarely shanks the ball any more... how bout them apples?

I think what happen was the ST coach got upset or hurt that Ryan thought there might be someone better out there to teach him or he didn't want someone else messing with his project or both.

I miss Ryan as the punter... he had red hair, held well for Crosby and even once in a while ran the ball VERY well and juked/run over some guys out while doing it ...

O well time to move on... well can we? The old ST teams coach little helper is now running the ST show and seemingly not don't much better other than finding two decent punters.

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Very interesting. I hadn't heard that about the punting expert. Our special teams coach had worked with Frost in the past, so I suspect he lobbied hard to get rid of Ryan and replace him with Frost. And I suspect that's a big reason why that special teams coach (I don't even remember his name) was fired at the end of the season.

Unfortunately, Ryan was cut just before he mastered the job of being an NFL punter. Bad timing.

Looking on the bright side, I've heard that Tim Masthay showed a lot of improvement during camp in his ability to kill the ball inside the 20 yard line. Maybe things are coming together for him as well.

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Ryan pulled the ball down and ran with it in the last preseason game that year, the day before he was cut. He got the first down, but we also lost our longsnapper as a result of what transpired on that play. In the last preseason game.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

Ryan pulled the ball down and ran with it in the last preseason game that year, the day before he was cut. He got the first down, but we also lost our longsnapper as a result of what transpired on that play. In the last preseason game.

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As I recall, Ryan thought a fake punt had been called but the rest of the team did not, which is why the play was so chaotic. Do you think they cut Ryan because of that play?
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nerdmann
14 years ago

Ryan pulled the ball down and ran with it in the last preseason game that year, the day before he was cut. He got the first down, but we also lost our longsnapper as a result of what transpired on that play. In the last preseason game.

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As I recall, Ryan thought a fake punt had been called but the rest of the team did not, which is why the play was so chaotic. Do you think they cut Ryan because of that play?

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I think they were pissed that it cost them their longsnapper for the year. Don't think it's the sole reason, but I think it factored in.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Greg C.
14 years ago

Ryan pulled the ball down and ran with it in the last preseason game that year, the day before he was cut. He got the first down, but we also lost our longsnapper as a result of what transpired on that play. In the last preseason game.

"nerdmann" wrote:



As I recall, Ryan thought a fake punt had been called but the rest of the team did not, which is why the play was so chaotic. Do you think they cut Ryan because of that play?

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I think they were pissed that it cost them their longsnapper for the year. Don't think it's the sole reason, but I think it factored in.

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Well, I hope such a random event didn't figure prominently in their decision to switch punters, because that would be pretty stupid. But then, it was a pretty bad decision no matter how you slice it.
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Cheesey
14 years ago

they want to get down field and try to pop Chery.

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oh....Wayne!!!! LOLOL!!!
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Cheesey
14 years ago
I really like Swain. But he's too banged up. I doubt he would last the season. it's a shame, cause he looks pretty good.
Chery.....he didn't impress me. he had the one good return last week, then fizzled this week. You can't blame MM for putting the pressure on him this past week. he gave him the chance to EARN a spot on the team, and in my view, he did nothing with that opportunity.
I was hoping he would shine and prove to be a great return man for us.
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