tonyagnese
14 years ago
I feel the o-line will be in better shape going into this season. Lang proved he can play so there is some confidence there.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Exactly. Just because he didn't act all meek and mild with a quiet, apologetic voice, people think he's cocky.

I don't want meek players on my team. I want players with fierceness and drive, players who are willing to take risks, players who are supremely confident that if they give it their best, the team will win.
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Pack93z
14 years ago



I think many fans misuse terms like "consistent" pretty consistently. :albino: For Colledge to qualify as what many fans feel is consistent, he'd have to be a great player, almost never get beat, and be a candidate for the Pro Bowl. When Rodgers says it, I tend to think it means that Colledge is a solid player who generally plays OK, as long as he's not at LT.

"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:



No he doesn't have to be a great player or make the pro bowl.. but when you see him lax on his footwork, or play to far forward in his setup or get too high often enough.. you make the call that he isn't consistent.

You can find at least 5 to 10 threads over the past couple of years of the same comments.. search them on me if you want.. he has proven that he can play at this level and very well at that.. but for whatever reason he doesn't play at the same level all the time.

It is a mixed bag with him.. and that is the problem.. to call a play you don't know what he is going to do.. and whether you better shift help his way or he will do it on his own..

And it isn't just in the running attack or pass protection that it pops up... he is truly either plugged in or not.. I don't know whether something gets inside his head and he loses focus or what.. but it isn't something that doesn't stand out.

I am sure some fans beat on him and through out all types of adjectives for him.. to me, he is a player that can be good, but doesn't always play at that level.. and honestly I don't know why.

On Rodgers.. don't know why he called him Mr Consistent... reverse psychology or something.. anything to support his teammate in the press.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
14 years ago
Another article on Colledge-

Packers' Colledge keeps left guard spot
He holds off challenges from Bulaga, others

By Bob McGinn of the Journal Sentinel

Aug. 29, 2010
Green Bay Letting bygones be bygones, coach Mike McCarthy has gone back to Daryn Colledge as the starting left guard for the Green Bay Packers.

Colledge outlasted top pick Bryan Bulaga, who appeared to have a legitimate shot for the job before what appears to be a nagging hip injury ruined the rookie's chances.

"I thought Bryan was improving with his opportunities there, but when you are injured you are not part of the equation anymore," McCarthy said Sunday after practice. "I like the production of the first line."

The starting unit has not allowed a sack in 4 1/2 quarters of exhibition play, and Colledge has allowed two of the minimal number of pressures.

Now Colledge won't have to alternate reps with Bulaga during practice, and the line can prepare with certainty for the opener Sept. 12 in Philadelphia.

"I'm disappointed I'm not the guy, but I got nicked up a little bit," said Bulaga, who first heard of McCarthy's decision from reporters. "That's just the way it goes. Whatever position they throw me in, I'll just try to make the best out of it."

After using Bulaga strictly at left tackle behind Chad Clifton from April 30 on, McCarthy moved him to left guard Aug. 9. His job-sharing arrangement with Colledge lasted until Bulaga had to drop out of practice Aug. 23 because of the hip.

"I continued to practice as a starter, and I didn't plan on giving that up whether Bulaga was healthy or not," Colledge said. "I think it was one of my best camps. My last game (against Indianapolis) was probably one of my better preseason games I've had."

If Colledge's track record in Green Bay repeats itself, he is due for a good season. He was effective as a rookie in 2006 and again in 2008, but fared much worse in 2007 and 2009.

Counting playoffs, Colledge has started 58 games at left guard, four at left tackle and one at left guard. In the regular season, he has played 4,103 out of a possible 4,280 snaps, or 93.8%.

"He has been here for a while and he's just a smart player," said Bulaga. "But I feel pretty confident playing there right now. Being inserted in the two games with the 1's at guard . . . I didn't feel like I didn't know anything."

Last season was Colledge's worst in Green Bay. As a result, the Packers debated internally whether he should even be offered the restricted free-agent tender of $1.759 million.

The offer was made on March 3 but wasn't signed until May 10 by Colledge, who never tried to conceal his desire for a long-term contract.

T.J. Lang might have offered legitimate competition for Colledge, but then he had to sit out the entire off-season following wrist surgery. He has been a right-side backup until Sunday, when he worked at both left-side positions.

Allen Barbre ran No. 2 behind Colledge during the first 10 days. Even though Jason Spitz has 37 starts at guard, the Packers apparently don't think he has the horsepower for guard anymore and used him mostly at center. Another rookie, Marshall Newhouse, proved to be better suited for left tackle than guard.

In the end, Colledge was the most durable and prevailed.

"Did I want that?" Colledge said, referring to competition. "Probably not. I would rather have been the starter from the very beginning. But I didn't give up any starts, and I got the reps I needed."

Colledge comes off a season in which he allowed many more sacks (7 1/2), pressures (40 1/2) and "bad" runs (18 1/2) than any other lineman. In four seasons, he has yielded 17 sacks, 96 pressures and 64 1/2 "bad" runs.

Because of injuries to Clifton, Colledge had to play 2 1/2 games at left tackle, and the results were horrendous. Four of his 7 1/2 sacks came at left tackle, his position at Boise State.

One scout who studied Colledge during an exhibition game this month said he still didn't think much of him.

"Just not mentally and physically tough enough," the scout said. "More of a waist bender. Doesn't use his hands well in pass pro. Same guy. He'll let them down."

That scout wasn't the first opposing coach or personnel man to cast doubts about Colledge's toughness over the years.

"I don't know where they get that from," said Colledge. "I'm known as a guy who covers and cleans up piles. But that's fine. If they want to spread that and think that, I'm good with that."

Asked about the perception that he was the weak link down the stretch in 2009, Colledge replied, "It never crossed my mind that I was the worst starter. Obviously, I know I had some struggles at left tackle. I had a tough game against Tampa Bay at guard when I came back. Other than that, I thought I played very well the last half of the season."

In the one-on-one pass blocking drill, Colledge ranked 11th among the 14 offensive linemen with a 12-4-5 record, a percentage of .691. Bulaga was eighth at 12-3-2, (.765).

Other than holding his job, Colledge's plan for improvement includes being less aggressive as a pass blocker and getting lower in everything that he does.

"Guys like Scott (Wells) and Josh (Sitton) play with really good pad level," he said. "I watch and try to mimic their pad level. I will be trying to get lower until I'm done playing football.

"I think I've improved. I played more physical. The fact is, it's hard to complain about the way I played left guard last year.

"I've got a feeling I'm the starter now. But I start to not perform well and they're going to have somebody right behind me ready to go."

It's interesting to go back to 2006 when, at the Senior Bowl, Colledge had the second-smallest hands (9 3/8 inches) among 18 offensive linemen and the third-shortest arms (32 3/4). His Wonderlic intelligence score of 30 ranked 15th-best among the 49 offensive linemen taking the test at the combine.



http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/101771103.html 
Pack93z
14 years ago
That damn McGinn hates all Packer players.. 😉
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
He hates Ted Thompson too.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
There are just so many positive things about this 2010 Packers season, that I hate to see repeat known issues derail the momentum this year.. home field is the goal of the regular season.. of course just past making the playoffs at all.

And the margin in winning and losing in this league can be as simple as a left guard missing an assignment.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
IronMan
14 years ago
Good combination block from Colledge:

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14 years ago
McCarthy taps dat ass.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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dfosterf
14 years ago

There are just so many positive things about this 2010 Packers season, that I hate to see repeat known issues derail the momentum this year.. home field is the goal of the regular season.. of course just past making the playoffs at all.

And the margin in winning and losing in this league can be as simple as a left guard missing an assignment.

"pack93z" wrote:



Your boy Lang should have this job. Colledge has pissed me off for the last time. He sucks when it absolutely counts the most.

Continuity? PULEEZE--- Get him out of there somehow.

They (coaches) don't look like they know what they are doing, still.
I am stone cold serious.

Or Lang at RT and Bulaga at LG. I love Wells, but I think he is just undersized for that which I aspire.

He needs off of this line also, I am serious about that, too.

So
Cliffy Bulaga One of the other big bastards here, not Spitz- Sitton Lang

Nick McDonald can play center, he goes 316...

I bet we could run behind that, and I'm sick and tired of seeing the center of our o-line collapse at critical junctures.

THEY DON'T KNOW what they are doing, I'm telling everyone, for the 50 millionth time!

They bumped Lang's weight to 318 btw (Was 316, remember that fight) Maybe they weighed him.

Now THAT's a line, on paper.

We need more offensive linemen. I have decided. We gotta get rid of this Campen. We will not, but we oughta. It should be me, I could live with you, perhaps Wade, lol

THIS LINE IS STILL NO FRIGGIN' GOOD. Yes, I do know that it is too risky to try and alter it now, and am aware of the improved functionality in the passing game....

It's a new concept, lol by me---that would be sarcasm--- I should have NEVER re-watched that game, nor concentrated on our o-line when doing so.
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