Zero2Cool
14 years ago
I think the Vikings have the better 1-25, but not a better 26-53 than the Packers.
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Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago

I think the Vikings have the better 1-25, but not a better 26-53 than the Packers.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Heaven forbid that I would disagree with anyone here BUT.

I don't think their starters are better than ours.

- Rodgers is better than Favre. Rodgers has had two years that are better than any 2 consecutive years Favre has ever had. Favres average is 85 rank and over 25 turnovers. Just because he had his best year in a 19 year career, doesn't mean he will have even an above average one this year. Rodgers average is aroung a 97 rating and 12 turnovers.
- Finley is better than Shank.
- Grant is as good as AP, factoring in TOs and O-line. He had almost the same yard production and the same YPC while he turned the ball over 1 time every 1250 yards compared to 1 every 200.
- I am not sure EJ Henderson will come back 100%. I give that one to Barnett.
- Our secondary is better when it is 100% healthy. Williams and Wood are better than anything they have. If Harris makes it back for Nickle duty, he is way better than Sheppard. Bigby and Collins are better their safeties. Bigby missed time against MN last year. Hopefully we get much needed depth out of Burnette
- Our O-line in the second half gave up 23 fewer sacks and produced 100 more yards for Grant. Than the first half. They didn't play against that line last year. With a healthy line we are more expirianced and better.
- Wide Recievers? I am going with the Pack on that but it is closer.

In short, they have a better D line.

When I said 2-6 or 3-5 to start, it is not because I don't like MN. It is because that is the level of talent they struggled with last year. They won't have 4 games for Favre to get his feet under him like last year.
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porky88
14 years ago

Brett Favre, Adrian Peterson, Jared Allen, Steve Hutchinson, and Kevin Williams are all Hall of Fame caliber players.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I think it's far to early to anoint any possible HoF stature to Adrian. If he comes back an cures his fumbles in the next two years and continues to put up the same numbers, then I'm with ya. Until he cures those fumbles though, I have a hard time putting him in the same category as say Walter Payton, or Barry Sanders.

"porky88" wrote:



From a pure talent stand point, Peterson is the best RB of his generation. However, you're correct. He's not a HOF player right now, but the potential is there.

With that said, injuries are the only thing stopping him from going to the Hall of Fame ala Terrell Davis. Fumbles won't keep him out.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Until we show we can beat the Queens I can easily see no one picking us higher than 2 in the Division. I'm looking/hoping for us to do that. Detroit and Chicago should be improved this year also.

"Zero2Cool Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 08:37 AM " wrote:



Yep. After we beat the Vikings twice during the regular season, I'm fine with saying we're the creme of the NFC North.

However, I stand by my statement that we will be in and win the Super Bowl this season.

"PackerTraxx" wrote:



I don't like tooting my own horn, but I pounded this hard and was ready to eat crow after Grant and Finley and Barnett went down.

I'm so freaking happy!!!
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packerfanoutwest (33m) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (44m) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (3h) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (3h) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (3h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (3h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (3h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (3h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (3h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (3h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (4h) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (4h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (4h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (5h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (5h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (5h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (5h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (5h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (6h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (6h) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (6h) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (6h) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (6h) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
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Zero2Cool (7h) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (8h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (8h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (9h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (9h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (9h) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (9h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (9h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (9h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (9h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (9h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (9h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (9h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (9h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (9h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (9h) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (9h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (9h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (9h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
packerfanoutwest (10h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what
Zero2Cool (10h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.
packerfanoutwest (10h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in
packerfanoutwest (10h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker
packerfanoutwest (10h) : if bucs win out they win their division
beast (10h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us
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