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IronMan
Veteran Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

I am more than a little bit concerned that we will go into the season with Crosby as the kicker. Although I didn't expect Ted to draft a kicker, I am somewhat surprised no one has been brought in yet to compete for the job.

I don't think bringing in competition will result in Crosby improving; I just think he isn't that good, and needs to be replaced. He's been below average for 3 years now. His fg percentage is terrible, and while he supposedly has a strong leg, he can't kick deep either. He is worthless.

What say you?

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digsthepack
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14 years ago

Crosby had a bad season...prior to that he was money. Give him a chance to recover from his funk.

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Pack93z
Select Member

14 years ago

I think the Packers should send me about 120k.. I go buy a C Leg .. modify the swing some and start kicking left footed.

First 40ish bio mechanical kicker ever.. it would draw all types of PR. ;)

I would work cheap to.. lol.

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Pack93z
Select Member

14 years ago

Now on a (semi) serious note.. I think he must have pics of Mike McCarthy daughter or something.. I would at the very least like an option to fall back upon.

No more.. last minute kicker changes please. 😉

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

IronMan
Veteran Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

Crosby had a bad season...prior to that he was money. Give him a chance to recover from his funk.

"digsthepack" wrote:

In 2007 he was 9-14 from 40-49. Not good enough.
In 2008 he was 10-13 from 30-39. Horrible.
In 2009 he couldn't make anything.

Pack93z
Select Member

14 years ago

Active kickers - Career Numbers

One thing to note.. is beyond the Montana wonder and two others.. there aren't many young kickers above 80%. And Crosby is very young on that list... but the number of plus 30 yo kickers is interesting.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/fg_perc_active.htm


Rank  	Player  (age), + - HOFer, Bold - Active  	FG%  	Years  	Teams
1. 	Nate Kaeding (27) 	87.209% 	 2004-2009  	sdg
2. 	Dan Carpenter (24) 	86.792% 	 2008-2009  	mia
3. 	Robbie Gould (27) 	85.897% 	 2005-2009  	chi
4. 	Shayne Graham (32) 	85.217% 	 2001-2009  	3TM
5. 	Stephen Gostkowski (25) 	85.124% 	 2006-2009  	nwe
6. 	Rob Bironas (31) 	84.472% 	 2005-2009  	oti
7. 	Matt Stover (41) 	83.659% 	 1991-2009  	3TM
8. 	Phil Dawson (34) 	83.273% 	 1999-2009  	cle
9. 	Jeff Reed (30) 	83.260% 	 2002-2009  	pit
10. 	Ryan Longwell (35) 	82.990% 	 1997-2009  	2TM
11. 	John Carney (45) 	82.404% 	 1988-2009  	7TM
12. 	Adam Vinatieri (37) 	82.039% 	 1996-2009  	2TM
13. 	Jason Hanson (39) 	81.801% 	 1992-2009  	det
14. 	Jay Feely (33) 	81.625% 	 2001-2009  	4TM
15. 	David Akers (35) 	81.620% 	 1998-2009  	2TM
16. 	John Kasay (40) 	81.600% 	 1991-2009  	2TM
17. 	Matt Bryant (34) 	81.461% 	 2002-2009  	5TM
18. 	Olindo Mare (36) 	81.233% 	 1997-2009  	3TM
19. 	Josh Brown (30) 	80.976% 	 2003-2009  	2TM
20. 	Lawrence Tynes (31) 	80.952% 	 2004-2009  	2TM
21. 	Rian Lindell (32) 	80.903% 	 2000-2009  	2TM
22. 	Jason Elam (39) 	80.741% 	 1993-2009  	2TM
23. 	Joe Nedney (36) 	80.065% 	 1996-2009  	7TM
24. 	Shaun Suisham (28) 	79.091% 	 2005-2009  	2TM
25. 	Nick Folk (25) 	79.012% 	 2007-2009  	dal
26. 	Mike Nugent (27) 	79.000% 	 2005-2009  	3TM
27. 	Sebastian Janikowski (31) 	78.425% 	 2000-2009  	rai
28. 	Neil Rackers (33) 	78.244% 	 2000-2009  	2TM
29. 	Mason Crosby (25) 	77.982% 	 2007-2009  	gnb
30. 	Kris Brown (33) 	77.301% 	 1999-2009  	2TM
31. 	Josh Scobee (27) 	76.730% 	 2004-2009  	jax
32. 	Matt Prater (25) 	76.712% 	 2007-2009  	2TM
33. 	Billy Cundiff (29) 	73.585% 	 2002-2009  	4TM

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

zoogies
Registered

14 years ago

I think we can be a little hard on kickers sometimes. I always liked Crosby; dude has an unreal leg. Competition's nice but some faith and support go a long way too. It's a mental game as much as it is a talent/physical ability for kickers.

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IronMan
Veteran Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

Competition's nice but some faith and support go a long way too.

"zoogies" wrote:

I agree. Screw competition. Who cares that he's not getting the job done, and he gets paid a lot of money to do so. Lets just all have a group hug.

And to hell with training camp/preseason. Lets just go position by position, and give each job to whoever the nicest guy is.

all_about_da_packers
Senior Member

14 years ago

You raise a very interesting question IM; interesting to note that when talking about Special Teams improvement, Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson have referenced punting or coverage / returns.

You raise a valid concern, IM. Although I don't have an issue with Crosby's kickoffs - I think the coverage made them appear worse than they were - his kicking production has been less than desirable.

You have to think Mike McCarthy believes he deserves some blame for Crosby's performance by putting in him bad FG kicking situations. That is the explanation that makes sense, considering they've talked about Crosby needing to be better at the end of the season, yet we've yet to see them do anything to really push Crosby in the form of competition.

It is a concern, one that I think many (including myself) had simply started to overlook lately...

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

#10

Crosby had a bad season...prior to that he was money. Give him a chance to recover from his funk.

"IronMan" wrote:

In 2007 he was 9-14 from 40-49. Not good enough.
In 2008 he was 10-13 from 30-39. Horrible.
In 2009 he couldn't make anything.

"digsthepack" wrote:

There was a point in the season he was something like 13 of 14 under 49. But one of three 50+ then he started missing everything over 30.

I'm fine with him being cut.

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