No competition for Crosby? ·

IronMan
100% (Exalted)
Veteran Member Topic Starter

15 years ago

I am more than a little bit concerned that we will go into the season with Crosby as the kicker. Although I didn't expect Ted to draft a kicker, I am somewhat surprised no one has been brought in yet to compete for the job.

I don't think bringing in competition will result in Crosby improving; I just think he isn't that good, and needs to be replaced. He's been below average for 3 years now. His fg percentage is terrible, and while he supposedly has a strong leg, he can't kick deep either. He is worthless.

What say you?

Wanna join the discussion?! Login to your forum account or Register a new forum account

digsthepack
53.25% (Neutral)
Registered

15 years ago

Crosby had a bad season...prior to that he was money. Give him a chance to recover from his funk.

State Motto: "Wisconsin, our serial murderers eat their kill!"

Pack93z
100% (Exalted)
Select Member

15 years ago

I think the Packers should send me about 120k.. I go buy a C Leg .. modify the swing some and start kicking left footed.

First 40ish bio mechanical kicker ever.. it would draw all types of PR. ;)

I would work cheap to.. lol.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Pack93z
100% (Exalted)
Select Member

15 years ago

Now on a (semi) serious note.. I think he must have pics of MM daughter or something.. I would at the very least like an option to fall back upon.

No more.. last minute kicker changes please. 😉

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

IronMan
100% (Exalted)
Veteran Member Topic Starter

15 years ago

Crosby had a bad season...prior to that he was money. Give him a chance to recover from his funk.

"digsthepack" wrote:

In 2007 he was 9-14 from 40-49. Not good enough.
In 2008 he was 10-13 from 30-39. Horrible.
In 2009 he couldn't make anything.

Pack93z
100% (Exalted)
Select Member

15 years ago

Active kickers - Career Numbers

One thing to note.. is beyond the Montana wonder and two others.. there aren't many young kickers above 80%. And Crosby is very young on that list... but the number of plus 30 yo kickers is interesting.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/fg_perc_active.htm


Rank  	Player  (age), + - HOFer, Bold - Active  	FG%  	Years  	Teams
1. 	Nate Kaeding (27) 	87.209% 	 2004-2009  	sdg
2. 	Dan Carpenter (24) 	86.792% 	 2008-2009  	mia
3. 	Robbie Gould (27) 	85.897% 	 2005-2009  	chi
4. 	Shayne Graham (32) 	85.217% 	 2001-2009  	3TM
5. 	Stephen Gostkowski (25) 	85.124% 	 2006-2009  	nwe
6. 	Rob Bironas (31) 	84.472% 	 2005-2009  	oti
7. 	Matt Stover (41) 	83.659% 	 1991-2009  	3TM
8. 	Phil Dawson (34) 	83.273% 	 1999-2009  	cle
9. 	Jeff Reed (30) 	83.260% 	 2002-2009  	pit
10. 	Ryan Longwell (35) 	82.990% 	 1997-2009  	2TM
11. 	John Carney (45) 	82.404% 	 1988-2009  	7TM
12. 	Adam Vinatieri (37) 	82.039% 	 1996-2009  	2TM
13. 	Jason Hanson (39) 	81.801% 	 1992-2009  	det
14. 	Jay Feely (33) 	81.625% 	 2001-2009  	4TM
15. 	David Akers (35) 	81.620% 	 1998-2009  	2TM
16. 	John Kasay (40) 	81.600% 	 1991-2009  	2TM
17. 	Matt Bryant (34) 	81.461% 	 2002-2009  	5TM
18. 	Olindo Mare (36) 	81.233% 	 1997-2009  	3TM
19. 	Josh Brown (30) 	80.976% 	 2003-2009  	2TM
20. 	Lawrence Tynes (31) 	80.952% 	 2004-2009  	2TM
21. 	Rian Lindell (32) 	80.903% 	 2000-2009  	2TM
22. 	Jason Elam (39) 	80.741% 	 1993-2009  	2TM
23. 	Joe Nedney (36) 	80.065% 	 1996-2009  	7TM
24. 	Shaun Suisham (28) 	79.091% 	 2005-2009  	2TM
25. 	Nick Folk (25) 	79.012% 	 2007-2009  	dal
26. 	Mike Nugent (27) 	79.000% 	 2005-2009  	3TM
27. 	Sebastian Janikowski (31) 	78.425% 	 2000-2009  	rai
28. 	Neil Rackers (33) 	78.244% 	 2000-2009  	2TM
29. 	Mason Crosby (25) 	77.982% 	 2007-2009  	gnb
30. 	Kris Brown (33) 	77.301% 	 1999-2009  	2TM
31. 	Josh Scobee (27) 	76.730% 	 2004-2009  	jax
32. 	Matt Prater (25) 	76.712% 	 2007-2009  	2TM
33. 	Billy Cundiff (29) 	73.585% 	 2002-2009  	4TM

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

zoogies
50.25% (Neutral)
Registered

15 years ago

I think we can be a little hard on kickers sometimes. I always liked Crosby; dude has an unreal leg. Competition's nice but some faith and support go a long way too. It's a mental game as much as it is a talent/physical ability for kickers.

blank

IronMan
100% (Exalted)
Veteran Member Topic Starter

15 years ago

Competition's nice but some faith and support go a long way too.

"zoogies" wrote:

I agree. Screw competition. Who cares that he's not getting the job done, and he gets paid a lot of money to do so. Lets just all have a group hug.

And to hell with training camp/preseason. Lets just go position by position, and give each job to whoever the nicest guy is.

all_about_da_packers
100% (Exalted)
Senior Member

15 years ago

You raise a very interesting question IM; interesting to note that when talking about Special Teams improvement, MM and Ted Thompson have referenced punting or coverage / returns.

You raise a valid concern, IM. Although I don't have an issue with Crosby's kickoffs - I think the coverage made them appear worse than they were - his kicking production has been less than desirable.

You have to think MM believes he deserves some blame for Crosby's performance by putting in him bad FG kicking situations. That is the explanation that makes sense, considering they've talked about Crosby needing to be better at the end of the season, yet we've yet to see them do anything to really push Crosby in the form of competition.

It is a concern, one that I think many (including myself) had simply started to overlook lately...

The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.

Zero2Cool
100% (Exalted)
Elite Member

15 years ago

#10

Crosby had a bad season...prior to that he was money. Give him a chance to recover from his funk.

"IronMan" wrote:

In 2007 he was 9-14 from 40-49. Not good enough.
In 2008 he was 10-13 from 30-39. Horrible.
In 2009 he couldn't make anything.

"digsthepack" wrote:

There was a point in the season he was something like 13 of 14 under 49. But one of three 50+ then he started missing everything over 30.

I'm fine with him being cut.

Wade
100% (Exalted)
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#11

I thought we were going to have an unstoppable offense? Who needs a FG kicker?

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Stevetarded
50.25% (Neutral)
Registered

15 years ago

#12

Who needs to kick a FG when you can go for it on 4th.

blank

PackerTraxx
100% (Exalted)
Senior Member

15 years ago

#13

I don't understand why a kicker or team wouldn't spend the money to go work with the "kicking guru", Sailor, when they are in a funk.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

dhazer
100% (Exalted)
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#14

People seem to forget that before last season they were messing with his approach on his kicks, which i never understood. WTF would you change something that he has been doing all his life. I can see changing a qbs passing technique but a kicker you don't mess with that. I think its really a 70 % physical and 30 % mental and you mess with his technique he losses his confidence and start wondering why he needs to change it.

Thats just my opinion and also something was really messed up last year. Did they change the football or something because look at how many missed fgs there were and the real shocker was who was missing them.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Rockmolder
100% (Exalted)
Honored Member

15 years ago

#15

"dhazer" wrote:

He wasn't exactly automatic before that, either.

I think that the style change was necessary. Whether or not Crosby himselfs buys into it is a big part of how effective it will be. I can see last year being some kind of transition year with this year being his last year to prove himself.

Like said before, kicking's as much of a mental game as it is physical. If you don't bring any competition in now, Crosby will obviously feel like they're good with him and don't need another player. That should be a confidence booster.

If he still can't get it done then, he's not going to get it. Ever. We can just go out and look for another kicker.

British
50.25% (Neutral)
Registered

15 years ago

#16

This should offer us some hope.

As Football Outsiders wrote in 2007, "Kickers are unbelievably inconsistent from year to year. In fact, there is just about zero correlation between a kicker's field goal percentage one year and his field goal percentage the next. Kickoff distance is more stable."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=wickersham_seth&id=5064694

Zero2Cool
100% (Exalted)
Elite Member

15 years ago

#17

I think we need another Kicker. And to let Crosby kick how he's comfortable kicking. If he wins the competition, well, shit.

Dulak
100% (Exalted)
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#18

Im more worried about our punters ... ya frost errr now I forgot his name lost his job so we hired a peep that has never played american football? ...

true I wouldnt mind competition for crosby ...

Zero2Cool
100% (Exalted)
Elite Member

15 years ago

#19

Frost has been gone for a year. Our last punter was Kapinos.

Dulak
100% (Exalted)
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#20

Frost has been gone for a year. Our last punter was Kapinos.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

ya ie hence the dudes name I forgot - to be honest I didnt consider his punting to be 'terrible' to not keep him for competition.

Important Information:

The uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

beast (1h) : Packershome going to the Whiteout unis again

Zero2Cool (7h) : Oh wait, they got Cam Ward. 1st overall right? haha oops

Zero2Cool (7h) : They could send Packers a 1st for a QB they are familiar with

Zero2Cool (7h) : Titans QB Will Levis to have season-ending shoulder surgery

Zero2Cool (19-Jul) : Their season did kind of start there, so 🤷

dfosterf (19-Jul) : Eagles put an engraved Brazil flag on their super bowl rings

Zero2Cool (18-Jul) : Benton unsigned no more

Zero2Cool (17-Jul) : That's good analysis, yes you are getting old. It'd a blessing!

dfosterf (14-Jul) : *analysis* gettin' old

dfosterf (14-Jul) : One of the best analyisis I"ve ever watched at this time of an offseason

dfosterf (14-Jul) : Andy Herman interviewed Warren Sharp on his Pack a day podcast

packerfanoutwest (10-Jul) : Us Padres fans love it....But it'll be a Dodgers/Yankees World Series

Zero2Cool (9-Jul) : Brewers sweep Dodgers. Awesome

Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : And James Flanigan is the grandson of Packers Super Bowl winner Jim Flanigan Sr.

Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : Jerome Bettis and Jim Flanigans sons as well!

Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Thomas Davis Jr is OLB, not WR. Oops.

Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Larry Fitzgeral and Thomas Davis sons too. WR's as well.

Mucky Tundra (5-Jul) : Kaydon Finley, son of Jermichael Finley, commits to Notre Dame

dfosterf (3-Jul) : Make sure to send my props to him! A plus move!

Zero2Cool (3-Jul) : My cousin, yes.

dfosterf (3-Jul) : That was your brother the GB press gazette referenced with the red cross draft props thing, yes?

Zero2Cool (2-Jul) : Packers gonna unveil new throwback helmet in few weeks.

Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : I know it's Kleiman but this stuff writes itself

Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : "Make sure she signs the NDA before asking for a Happy Ending!"

Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : @NFL_DovKleiman Powerful: Deshaun Watson is taking Shedeur Sanders 'under his wing' as a mentor to the Browns QBs

Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Dolphins get (back) Minkah Fitzpatrick in trade

Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Steelers land Jalen Ramsey via Trade

dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us

dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.

wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.

Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year

dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot

dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.

dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year

dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest

dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.

Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?

Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason

Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”

Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.

Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.

Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH

beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.

Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law

Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter

Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2025 Packers Schedule

Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM

COMMANDERS

Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM

Browns

Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM

Cowboys

Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM

BENGALS

Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM

Cardinals

Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM

Steelers

Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM

PANTHERS

Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM

EAGLES

Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM

Giants

Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM

Broncos

Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM

Bears

Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM

RAVENS

Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM

Vikings