Dulak
  • Dulak
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15 years ago
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/92067829.html 


Green Bay When general manager Ted Thompson said post-draft that the Green Bay Packers "still were working on" outside linebacker, free agents Tim Knicky, John Russell and Frank Zombo turned out to be the fruits of those labors.

Thompson isn't one of those who consider it a thin, if not weak, position in Green Bay, where starters Clay Matthews and Brad Jones were backed only by Brady Poppinga and Cyril Obiozor at about 4 p.m. Saturday.

An hour later, the Packers reached agreements with Knicky of Stephen F. Austin, Russell of Wake Forest and Zombo of Central Michigan. Undersized defensive linemen in college, their size fits best as outside linebackers in a 3-4 scheme.

All three players had multiple teams pressing to sign them in the annual free-agent free-for-all immediately after the draft. In each case, the players and their agents went for opportunity in Green Bay.

"I think they know Clay Matthews is going to get after the quarterback," Russell said Sunday. "They're looking for another guy they feel can really do that and also be really, really physical against the run.

"We felt there was a need for them to add some depth, and that it was the best opportunity to get on a team."

Russell, 6 feet 3 inches and 280 pounds, expects to drop 20 pounds in no time. His natural weight is in the 255-260 range.
Right on the nose

At Wake Forest, Russell started for three seasons and played extensively as a true freshman in 2006 as a 3-technique tackle in a 4-3. Much of the time he played at 265, a weight ill-suited to anchoring against interior double teams.

"I was out of position but that's what the team needed," said Russell. "Teams kept telling me that I'd never play D-tackle in the NFL, but they knew I can play football and I move real well.

"They liked the fact I was kind of unselfishly going in there and playing."

The son of a high-school defensive coordinator, Russell's 51-game totals included 10 1/2 sacks and 137 tackles (19 for loss).

Eight or nine teams called Russell or his agent after the draft. Two teams, Dallas and Tampa Bay, wanted him as a fullback even though he never played it.

Russell was the slowest of the three in the 40-yard dash (4.91 seconds) but also the strongest on the bench press (30 reps).

Knicky (6-4, 251) is a fly-off-the-edge sack artist out of the Football Championship Subdivision Southland Conference.

A 3 1/2-year starter at weak-side end in a 4-3, he had 24 1/2 sacks the last two years and 32 1/2 in all, to go with 59 1/2 tackles for loss.

"That's what they pay me to do," Knicky said. "I'd definitely say my speed is my (No. 1 attribute). I get off the ball well and do have some strength."

A year ago, Knicky weighed just 232. Even at 251, he still ran 4.68. A wide receiver in high school, Knicky has almost no experience at linebacker.

"Green Bay called me during the seventh round and told me they had no picks left and wanted me as a free agent," he said. "I had done a little research, and I knew Green Bay would be a good place for me. There were seven or eight teams calling . . . like Jacksonville, the Texans, the Broncos and Chargers.

"Some of the other teams wanted me to play with my hand on the ground and play (4-3) end. I just think I'm better suited for linebacker."

Zombo (6-3 1/2, 254) was a three-year starter at strong-side end in a 4-3 and weighed between 265 and 270. After the season, he decided to drop weight.

Detroit and Cincinnati wanted to sign him as a tight end.
An in with Zombo

One reason Zombo chose the Packers was his agent, Robert Walker, happened to be Jason Hunter's agent in 2006 when the undrafted rookie made the Packers.

Zombo runs 4.76, owns the best vertical jump (35 1/2 inches) and broad jump (10-2) of the three and managed 23 reps on the bench, six more than Knicky. He also has by far the longest arms (32 1/2).

"I have the size and the athletic ability to do it," said Zombo. "I have really good hands. I caught 78 passes in high school my senior year as a wide receiver. And I can rush the passer. It's a great fit."

Zombo had 181 tackles (39 for loss) and 25 1/2 sacks at Central Michigan, where Cullen Jenkins had only 11 1/2 sacks from 1999-'02 before making it as a free agent in Green Bay.

Meanwhile, the Packers also signed Nick McDonald (6-4, 306), a guard from Grand Valley State, and Fresno State wide receiver Chastin West (6-1, 214).

McDonald started at right guard in 2008 and left tackle in '09. He runs 5.21 and did 27 reps on the bench.

"Good athlete, good feet, a lot of up side," an AFC personnel director said before the draft. "He could be one of those guys, in his third or fourth year, he could end up starting. He needs to get a little stronger."

West played three years, sitting out '07 with knee injury. He finished with 81 catches for 1,051 yards (13.0) and six touchdowns, 45 kickoff returns for a 21.3 mark and 19 punt returns for an 11.3 average and two scores.

Also, running back Tory Harrison of Southern Mississippi agreed to a weekend audition, not a free-agent contract.

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Dulak
  • Dulak
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15 years ago
This makes me feel alot better.

We have 3 new guys that are vying to play; whom didnt get drafted and they know this is perhaps their only chance to get in the nfl.

All 3 guys sound like they got stuck playing DE or even DT because this is what the school needed them to play; while they appeared to be much more suited as a LBer.

funny how other teams called them up and wanted them to play like TE or things like that ...

here is to hoping for one of these guys to beat out brad jones for the starting spot opposite matthews.
yooperfan
15 years ago
Frank Zombo is definately my darkhorse this year.
Zambo is a great name for a linebacker.
I'm pulling for him to knock Poppinga out of the box.
British
15 years ago
We could have some serious turnover at the linebacker position.

Last year we had Kampman, Poppinga and Thompson at OLB.

Kampy is gone, Thompson may be done through injury and Poppinga is nothing more than a special teamer who is a 'good locker room prescence'.

I see Obiozor taking one of those spots and at least one of the three UDFAs grabbing a second spot. Personally I like Kinicky - a speed edge rusher with similar measurables to CM3.

Considering we brought in a boat load of WRs last year I'm surprised we havent got more LBs. I suspect after the tryouts we may add another one.
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Pack93z
15 years ago
So if Zombo sticks.. does ZombieSlayer put him on an exclusion type list... otherwise ZS might make a mistake. 😉
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Since69
15 years ago
Russell, Knicky and Zombo... weren't they three characters in Grease?
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bigfog
15 years ago
Hope that at least one of these guys can come in and actually compete and not have to sit on the practice squad.

Have to tell you, I was bummed as all get out when Green Bay passed on some of the outside backers out there. Bulaga and Burnett notwithstanding, I'm not sure what to make of this draft.

Glad I didn't go into the NFL as a profession. I have a feeling I'd be terrible at it.
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tromadz
15 years ago


here is to hoping for one of these guys to beat out brad jones for the starting spot opposite matthews.

"Dulak" wrote:



And odds are ONE of them will rise to the occasion and be this year's post-draft FA stud.

Me and Zero went back and forth all draft weekend on our thoughts on the LOLB spot and I felt it was fine, he disagreed.

This definitely helps matters though. A spot that, to me, wasn't a weakness, should get stronger by competition alone. Jones was good last year. If he loses the job, I'm fine with it. If he keeps it, it means he stepped up and earned it this year unlike last year where he stepped into it due to Kampman's injury.

Our LB spots are going to work themselves out great in camp. It's going to be intense and fun to keep track of!
TheEngineer
15 years ago
With the retirement of Jeremy Thompson, does this almost cement one of these players as a backup/ST linebacker on the Packers squad?
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warhawk
15 years ago
I wanted a LOLB as well but obviously Ted Thompson and Co. did not see somebody there that they were convinced could anchor down a spot and I give them credit for not forcing it.

It's going to be interesting to see how Neal turns out. He played on a lousy team with a lousy defense against a lot of good teams with good OLmen. They obviously see things in him that convinced them he is a player but the research had to go deep to see what they see.

He could be really important if Jolly has to sit out and Harrell can't go. I am pleased we addressed a position not as sexy as others but very important for us.

The RB is intriguing in that he was out all year but ran over everybody when he was at Buffalo. Another guy that would take a tremendous amount of research to make a decision on.

Obviously the Ted Thompson and the boys pay attention to what other teams are looking at doing. They moved up for Burnett just before a run on Safeties.

I heard after Bulaga was picked that there was one other player on the board they had rated just slightly higher but not enough to change the pick. Curious as to who that was.
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