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15 years ago

ticho66 (4/17/2010 at 7:45 AM)
I think it's hilarious how a guy can call Packer fans stupid and then in the same breath wonder how T.T. has kept his job. Put two and two together man. Ask yourself this. Is there any team the past two years that absolutely had to have their QB look good the way the Packers did? Where would T.T. and McCarthy be had Rodgers only had average seasons, and the team spent more energy on building a running game, offensive line, pass defense, special teams? What if Rodgers had an average season and by trying to become a better all around team, rather than padding Rodger's numbers, the Packers would have won more games. If the Packers would have won ten games and Rodgers looked merely OK two years ago, then Packer fans would have been livid with contempt and whining, "If we had Favre we'd have won it all." And, the same could be said about last year too. It was in McCarthy and T.T.'s best interest to make Rodgers have great stats and the rest of the team to look poor. It really is the best way for them to limit the criticism as much as possible. Funny thing is, there might be a half dozen Packer fans smart enough to see reality. Will the blinders come off after missing the playoffs in 2010?



I found this odd comment on ESPN the other day and don't know what to make of it. Intuitively, it seems wrong to me, but I'd like to see some of the better football minds on this site dissect it.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
It's obvious. Ted and Mike try to build as good a tema around Rodgers as they can, only to ask them to play worse than they are, and then have Rodgers make easy completions to pad his stats. My blinders are off.

Also, we've never been to the moon, Elvis lives in Germany, Hitler is alive and well in Hawaii, Clinton has been assasinating his associates and the 2010 Haiti earthquake was caused by US government weapons testing.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I surely don't classify has a better football mind, but I did watch every Packers game last year and padding the stats for Rodgers is pretty foolish to say. It kind of insults those of us who watched the games. What game did we go Patriots on teams?

I'm supposed to think deeper and believe that the Packers switched to a 3 - 4 sieve passing defense so they could unleash Aaron Rodgers on the NFL in hopes of sparing their jobs?

One player's great stats will never save a GM his job or a HC for that matter.

We also had a RB run for over 1,200 yards, how does that figure into the padding stats theory? Are we implying that Ryan Grant was a ... sorry fell out of my chair with laughter ... a decoy for Aaron Rodgers and the passing game?
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nerdmann
15 years ago
The previous guy had all those same weapons on offense and didn't have to run for his life. Well, except Finley I guess.
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15 years ago
If Ted Thompson was in job-saving, Rodgers-stat-padding mode, wouldn't they have made some desperation trade for a top LT? If keeping Rodgers looking good was all they cared about surely he would sacrifice a future pick or two and ovepay for a LT?

Also in the two games against the Vikings Capers said they decided to stop AP by stacking the box and seeing if Favre could beat them through the air.

If the Rodgers/Favre battle was all we cared about wouldn't they have shifted that philosophy little?

I think if you follow the Pack as closely as we do and assess every word the GM speaks in public it's clear he's not the type that obsesses about his personal reputation, legacy, opinion polls etc. Ted Thompson is seen as a tight lipped, introverted guy who spends more time watching tape than basking in the media light of being a GM. I just dont see him worrying too much about Rodger's personal stats.

And I don't think he has to worry too much about 'fans calling for his head'. A lot of them did that last season and Murphy seems to have his back. I think Thompson has one of the safest GM jobs in the league.
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RaiderPride
15 years ago
It's true.

We never landed on the moon.
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nerdmann
15 years ago

It's true.

We never landed on the moon.

"RaiderPride" wrote:




I think we were there in about 1955. And it probably took us about ten minutes to get there.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

I surely don't classify has a better football mind, but I did watch every Packers game last year and padding the stats for Rodgers is pretty foolish to say. It kind of insults those of us who watched the games. What game did we go Patriots on teams?

I'm supposed to think deeper and believe that the Packers switched to a 3 - 4 sieve passing defense so they could unleash Aaron Rodgers on the NFL in hopes of sparing their jobs?

One player's great stats will never save a GM his job or a HC for that matter.

We also had a RB run for over 1,200 yards, how does that figure into the padding stats theory? Are we implying that Ryan Grant was a ... sorry fell out of my chair with laughter ... a decoy for Aaron Rodgers and the passing game?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:


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zombieslayer
15 years ago
Brett Favre is an elite QB. So is Aaron Rodgers. I was bummed when Favre left and Aaron took over. Then Aaron threw TD after TD. Then I realized that both are elite and both are fun to watch, and started rooting for both.

I don't see why we're forced to take sides in this.

Speaking of padding stats, was Favre padding his stats when he threw that needless TD against the Cows in the Playoffs?

(Now, don't get me wrong, I LOVED that moment. Seeing a Cows' player get all butt hurt after being spanked put a wicked smile on my face. I wish we'd do the same to the Cows as I hate the Cows more than Nixon hated communists). Plus, I like it when my favorite players pad their stats and don't think there's anything wrong with that.


The way to limit criticism is to win games and Ted Thompson realized that our weakness in '08 was our D, so we made the necessary changes in '09.

If he really wanted Aaron to pad stats, we wouldn't have focused so much on D last year.
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NormaL
15 years ago
He only did it because Rodgers was my FF QB.
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