Rockmolder
14 years ago
Lol. No, he didn't say that. But that's exactly the reaction he'd have gotten. He was in a position where he couldn't blame anyone else. You just don't do that. Especially if you're that low on the depth chart.

He didn't have a choice but play out of position there. Did he see that Bigby was out of position? I don't know, but since he was, that was the best play he could make. I was absolutely amazed at how close Bell was to breaking up that play with the amount of time that Ben had to throw it. This one was on Bigby. Had he been in position and Bell would've gone with the same coverage, it's all on Bell.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Lol. No, he didn't say that. But that's exactly the reaction he'd have gotten. He was in a position where he couldn't blame anyone else. You just don't do that. Especially if you're that low on the depth chart.

He didn't have a choice but play out of position there. Did he see that Bigby was out of position? I don't know, but since he was, that was the best play he could make. I was absolutely amazed at how close Bell was to breaking up that play with the amount of time that Ben had to throw it. This one was on Bigby. Had he been in position and Bell would've gone with the same coverage, it's all on Bell.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Wait, what? Who didn't say what?
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Rockmolder
14 years ago

Lol. No, he didn't say that. But that's exactly the reaction he'd have gotten. He was in a position where he couldn't blame anyone else. You just don't do that. Especially if you're that low on the depth chart.

He didn't have a choice but play out of position there. Did he see that Bigby was out of position? I don't know, but since he was, that was the best play he could make. I was absolutely amazed at how close Bell was to breaking up that play with the amount of time that Ben had to throw it. This one was on Bigby. Had he been in position and Bell would've gone with the same coverage, it's all on Bell.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Wait, what? Who didn't say what?

"Rockmolder" wrote:



What I wrote was a hypothetical. Pretty much what would've happened if he did blame Bigby. Just look at how you two reacted, it's pretty obvious that he couldn't blame anyone but himself there. He would've killed his GB career, otherwise.
dhazer
14 years ago
I'm rewatching the play in question and I see Bigby standing all by himself with no steeler around him. But you can't really blame Bell he had great coverage and it took a great throw and catch.

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Also Nerdman yes they say Harris is a physical corner but they are referring to his hand checking at the line not tackling. Usually Harris is the one trotting behind the play.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
The only thing more amusing than Rock's sarcasm in this thread was the failure of everyone else to catch it. Considering I caught Rock's point instantly, I guess I think more like Rock than I realized, and that's a scary thought.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

The only thing more amusing than Rock's sarcasm in this thread was the failure of everyone else to catch it. Considering I caught Rock's point instantly, I guess I think more like Rock than I realized, and that's a scary thought.

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Failure by everyone? He used quotes which is universally understood as actual comments from said person and then to add more to this he cited Packers.com as a implied source for this information.

I don't think there was any failure here other than by the original poster who falsely cited a source and misused quotations without any indication it was not factual.

And of course you caught it ... IMMEDIATELY ... because you're different and better than the rest. We get it. You're smarter than us all. We still don't much care. Now go sleep with your girlfriend while your wife watches, lucky asshole. 😉
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Stevetarded
14 years ago
I don't get where the Harris is a bad tackler thing is coming from? He was one of the team leaders in tackles when he got injured this year and only had 1 missed tackle all year.

http://profootballfocus.com/articles.php?tab=articles&arc=&id=132 

Highest tackle / miss ratio in the entire NFL out of CBs. Not bad for someone who isn't good at it.

(Before Dhazer jumps in with his usual response - I am NOT trying to say Al is the best tackling corner in the NFL. I just find it interesting that his effeciency would be so good since he is supposedly a bad tackler.)
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago

What I wrote was a hypothetical. Pretty much what would've happened if he did blame Bigby. Just look at how you two reacted, it's pretty obvious that he couldn't blame anyone but himself there. He would've killed his GB career, otherwise.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Point taken.

That still fails to explain why no-one else such as coaches or ex-players laid the blame on Bigby.

Leroy Butler on that play: 

Theres no way that Bell should be inside of that receiver. He should be outside that receiver so he can push him toward Atari Bigby. Bell should be more aggressive outside-in, so that he can see the quarterback and the man. With his back to the quarterback, you can lose sight of the receiver. He has to force the guy to his help. His help was toward the inside. Thats where Bigby was. Thats why a lot of people say use the sideline as your friend. In that case, even with that throw and that catch, it was a bad play from the start.


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nerdmann
14 years ago

I don't get where the Harris is a bad tackler thing is coming from? He was one of the team leaders in tackles when he got injured this year and only had 1 missed tackle all year.

http://profootballfocus.com/articles.php?tab=articles&arc=&id=132 

Highest tackle / miss ratio in the entire NFL out of CBs. Not bad for someone who isn't good at it.

(Before Dhazer jumps in with his usual response - I am NOT trying to say Al is the best tackling corner in the NFL. I just find it interesting that his effeciency would be so good since he is supposedly a bad tackler.)

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I've never seen Harris shy away from contact. Wouldn't mind them seeing what he could do at safety. So, did they really release Bell? I thought that dude had potential.
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14 years ago
OK, watching that play just reminded me of why I was so pissed off after that game. Has nothing to do with our DBs and everything to do with why the **** were we rushing only 3 people? Geez, look at Roethlisburger. All the time in the ****** world.
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