14 years ago

Rock what I am saying is that for the money AP has played to justify the money he got paid, Rodgers was on the bench so at this point money wise AP was the better pick. Basically AP started from day 1 compared to Rodgers collecting money on the bench.

"dhazer" wrote:



You know Rodgers was behind one of the top 5 or so QBs ever to play the game, and also the all time greatest ironman to ever play in the NFL, yet you somehow think sitting on the bench learning the game behind him somehow diminishes Rodgers' value as a pick? I guess the polite thing to say is that I strongly disagree.

I see you're qualifying it with "money wise", so here's something to consider-
Adrian Peterson's rookie contract was/is for 6 years, $40.5 mil.
Aaron Rodgers' rookie deal was 5 years, $7.6 mil. Pretty damn cheap for a QB of Rodgers' caliber, and the total 5 year cost is just over the per year average of AP's contract. "Money wise" the better pick? I'll take Rodgers.

Honestly, I see what you're saying, but I just don't see any point in what you're saying.
porky88
14 years ago
Both sides are correct in the AP vs Aaron Rodgers argument. Both sides are also wrong. The fact is both picks were A quality picks. Even A+ quality picks. AP is the best runner of this generation and Aaron Rodgers is a franchise quarterback. He's a QB who has replaced a legend something that has only been done once in the modern era by the way.

They play different positions so you can't compare them directly. They've both have had huge impacts on their organizations. They've both been to the Pro Bowl.

As far as the money argument. That's nitpicking. Rodgers was selected to develop behind Favre. Paying him a lot of money is no different than San Diego paying Phillip Rivers a lot of money. Rivers actually made more on the bench and makes more now too. I really don't get that.
Rockmolder
14 years ago

Both sides are correct in the AP vs Aaron Rodgers argument. Both sides are also wrong. The fact is both picks were A quality picks. Even A+ quality picks. AP is the best runner of this generation and Aaron Rodgers is a franchise quarterback. He's a QB who has replaced a legend something that has only been done once in the modern era by the way.

They play different positions so you can't compare them directly. They've both have had huge impacts on their organizations. They've both been to the Pro Bowl.

As far as the money argument. That's nitpicking. Rodgers was selected to develop behind Favre. Paying him a lot of money is no different than San Diego paying Phillip Rivers a lot of money. Rivers actually made more on the bench and makes more now too. I really don't get that.

"porky88" wrote:



Both are A+ picks, but that doesn't take away from the fact that, when you can choose, you'd go the franchise QB way.

Peterson is the best overall runner. Maybe not the most productive one right now, but he's more all-around and more powerfull than CJ in his running style. (Although that's an argument worth having, as well.)

I don't know how much you like Rodgers. I recall that you thought Ryan had more potential at the start of the year than Rodgers. And that's still very valid. I think that Rodgers is one of the best, already. You have Manning and Brady who are in a league of their own right now and then you have Favre, Rivers and Rodgers. And Rivers and Rodgers haven't entered their prime or are just doing so.

Of course, I'm going to get blasted for this green and gold goggle crap again, but I don't care. I'd pick Rodgers over Peterson any day of the week. Positional value gives the nod to Rodgers.

Darrelle Revis, Adrian Peterson, Patrick Willis, they're all A+ picks in the 2007 draft. That doesn't change the fact that I'd rather have Adrian Peterson than Patrick Willis.
earthquake
14 years ago
Rock: No mention of Brees? Shame on you! 🙂
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Rockmolder
14 years ago

Rock: No mention of Brees? Shame on you! =)

"earthquake" wrote:



Oh, snap! Lol. Yeah, Brees is up there with Brady and Manning, as well, imo. People speak about his amazing receiving core, but I'm not that sold on his receivers. Payton and Brees make them look a lot better than they are.
earthquake
14 years ago

Rock: No mention of Brees? Shame on you! =)

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Oh, snap! Lol. Yeah, Brees is up there with Brady and Manning, as well, imo. People speak about his amazing receiving core, but I'm not that sold on his receivers. Payton and Brees make them look a lot better than they are.

"earthquake" wrote:



Agreed. Brees has arguably been better than Manning, or at worst just as good the past 3-4 years.
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tonyagnese
14 years ago
I am a minority, I LOVE what Ted Thompson has done and think he is a pure genious.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

I am a minority, I LOVE what Ted Thompson has done and think he is a pure genious.

"tonyagnese" wrote:



You're only in the minority that you're publicly stating you love what he has done. See, the ones who hate Ted are far less respectful in their distaste for the moves Ted has made and not made. Where as those who support the decisions are FAR more tactful. This results into many who support Ted to keep their keyboards untouched. It's unfortunate how it works.
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Brandon494
14 years ago

I am a minority, I LOVE what Ted Thompson has done and think he is a pure genious.

"tonyagnese" wrote:



+1

I live in VA and pretty much all my friends are Redskins fans so I see what happens when you have a team who tries to buy a championship each season. Ted Thompson is doing it the right way by building thru the draft and while the offseasons might be boring he is putting togethers a pretty damn good team.
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porky88
14 years ago

I don't know how much you like Rodgers. I recall that you thought Ryan had more potential at the start of the year than Rodgers. And that's still very valid. I think that Rodgers is one of the best, already. You have Manning and Brady who are in a league of their own right now and then you have Favre, Rivers and Rodgers. And Rivers and Rodgers haven't entered their prime or are just doing so.

Of course, I'm going to get blasted for this green and gold goggle crap again, but I don't care. I'd pick Rodgers over Peterson any day of the week. Positional value gives the nod to Rodgers.

Darrelle Revis, Adrian Peterson, Patrick Willis, they're all A+ picks in the 2007 draft. That doesn't change the fact that I'd rather have Adrian Peterson than Patrick Willis.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



I think Matt Ryan is going to be the player of the next decade. I'm very very high on him.

Rodgers is right up there. Actually, No. 2 on my list of QBs taken in the last five drafts.

I don't disagree with Rodgers over Peterson based on position. If I'm building a football team, I go QB as priority No. 1 and then LT and DE as priority No. 2. RT if my QB is a lefty. That's based on philosophy, but as players at their respective positions, they're both home runs.

People don't like the BPA all the time. Rodgers was BPA and GB already had Favre. Peterson was BPA and MIN already had Chester Taylor. Sometimes it can work. :thumbleft:
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