Greg C.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/super-bowl/02/01/martz.ap/index.html 

I think this is a good hire by the Bears. Martz had little success as an OC after leaving the Rams, but with Cutler he'll be working with a very talented QB again. It will be interesting to see how those young receivers develop under Martz.
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Can't wait for the first explosion between the fiery OC and the combustible fragile emotional QB....

IMO... I think Cutler in ChiTown will never be a consistent success.. I just don't think the guy has "IT".

He has the physical talent.. the "IT" that is lacking is the poise, confidence and where with all to excel at this level.
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15 years ago
With Martz or with out him, the same question. Who is going to catch the ball?
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15 years ago
Won't work.

Cutler is too much of a whiney bitch, and while he's a good gungslinging QB--he's not the kind of QB who has pinpoint accuracy. Only two QB's -- Kurt Warner and Marc Bulger -- have had success in the system, reason being that they both were deadly accurate.

At that, they also got injured a lot, and unless Chicago fixes that offensive line, Cutler won't survive.

Green Bay's 3-4 pressure scheme and Minnesota's pass-rush with their defensive line will destroy Chicago's offense.
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Interesting hire... I heard this on ESPN radio via NCAA Football 10 on my PS3 (that's effing GENIOUS!).

I'll reserve judgement/opinions until the season.
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Over Mike Martz's career as either an offensive coordinator, or as a head coach in the NFL, his quarterbacks have been sacked on average of 46 times per season. That little stat, combined with Chicago's weak offensive line, equals bad news for Jay Cutler.
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15 years ago

Over Mike Martz's career as either an offensive coordinator, or as a head coach in the NFL, his quarterbacks have been sacked on average of 46 times per season. That little stat, combined with Chicago's weak offensive line, equals bad news for Jay Cutler.

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That, and the fact that Martz usually doesn't use his TEs all too often... I don't know if this was as great a hire as some make it out to be.

Don't get me wrong, they need to go to their receivers a little more. The problem is, you don't have the draft picks to go into rebuilding mode, you have an aging defense and you have two great TEs on the roster.

I just hope, for Martz's sake, that they don't expect immediate success.
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The sacks are because Martz likes to throw the ball downfield a lot. And he's had some real sitting-duck-type QB's, with Warner and Kitna. The Bears have some fast young receivers and a QB who likes to air it out, so this could potentially be a good matchup. Or it could backfire. It will be high-risk high-reward.
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A Chitown opinion on the hire... 

Martz worth risk for desperate Bears

Posted Feb. 01, 2010 @ 6:55 p.m.
By Dan Arkush

Say hello to the latest high-profile Mike to make a big-time splash in the Windy City. A long, drawn-out and often frustrating search by the Bears for a new offensive coordinator that had reached 27 days finally came to an end Monday afternoon when the team hired offensive mastermind Mike Martz to replace the fired Ron Turner and become the third person to hold the position in the Lovie Smith era.

And like Michael Jordan, the man most responsible for putting the Bulls on the NBA map, and Mike Singletary, the former great Bears linebacker currently establishing a new niche as the head coach for the Niners, Mike Martz can be expected to leave what figures to be a lasting mark on the Chicago sports scene for better or worse.

The 58-year-old Martzs new deal with the Bears was sealed three days after he met with Smith, Bears GM Jerry Angelo and the teams assistant coaches and two days after he had a dinner date in Nashville, Tenn., with Bears QB Jay Cutler, who had been prominently involved in the interview process with the teams previous candidates. Working as an NFL Network commentator early this past season, Martz, who has been known for ruffling more than a few feathers over the years, had been highly critical of Cutler, claiming that he (Cutler) just doesnt get it. On the other hand, Martz is on record as being highly complimentary of Cutlers natural talents, indicating that Cutler would be by far the most gifted QB under his tutelage should he have the chance to work with him.

The PFW spin

With Smith and Angelo basically having a one-year window to turn the Bears back into a legitimate contender after the team failed to make the playoffs for a third straight year, many close observers of the team have thought all along that Martz was the most qualified person to orchestrate the quick fix the Bears so desperately need.

Everywhere hes been in the NFL as a head coach or coordinator, Martzs offenses have shown major improvement, particularly in St. Louis, where his Greatest Show on Turf units under the direction of the recently retired Kurt Warner ranked among the more potent in league history.

As the Lions offensive coordinator in 2006 and 07, Martz quickly brought out the best in thirtysomething QB Jon Kitna, who had his first 4,000-yard passing season under Martzs freewheeling direction. In 2008 as the coordinator of the Niners, a passing offense that was ranked 32nd the previous year finished the season ranked 13th. In both Detroit and San Francisco, however, Martz had a philosophical parting of the ways with Rod Marinelli and Singletary, respectively. Add those football divorces to the stormy split he had with the Rams despite a very respectable 56-36 record and four playoff berths in St. Louis, and you end up with red flags aplenty in his newest venue.

But what you also have in Martz is a proven commodity filling a position that Angelo has said is his most important hire aside from his decision to hire Smith. Considering their equally prickly personalities, it will hardly be a shock should Martz and Cutler clash on occasion. But considering Martzs track record, some occasional friction would be a small price to pay if hes able to get Cutler back on track to being the franchise-caliber signalcaller Angelo envisioned when he obtained Cutler from the Broncos in a blockbuster deal last April.

But there is still one nagging question worth noting: Why did the Bears wait so long to hire Martz and spend so much time parading other seemingly less-qualified candidates through Halas Hall? There is strong reason to believe among team insiders that Angelo might have preferred somebody else, such as Packers QB Tom Clements, who was denied permission from Green Bay to interview for the position, or Vikings QB coach Kevin Rogers, who reportedly had made a favorable impression in his recent interview for the job.

Of course, theres also the question of whether or not Smith, who up to now has been a staunch proponent of more of a run-oriented philosophy, can live with what figures to be a much more wide-open, pass-oriented attack under Martz.

Whatever the case, the newest Mike in town promises to make things very interesting for a franchise in dire need of a big-time jolt.

Stay tuned and let the sparks fly.


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15 years ago

Martz hire raises turf issue 

If Bears want to recreate St. Louis 'Show,' they need to replace Soldier Field's grass surface


February 2, 2010

When Mike Martz was in St. Louis, his offense was called "The Greatest Show on Turf."

If the Bears want to recreate the St. Louis experience, they need turf specifically an infill playing surface at Soldier Field.

The Bears and the Chicago Park District have been open to the idea of replacing Soldier Field's grass playing surface, and this could be the ideal time to make the change. It would cost about $1.5 million to make the switch to an infill surface, better known by the brand name FieldTurf, and in the long run it would be considerably cheaper than regular re-soddings.

In the past, however, the Bears have been resistant to playing on an artificial surface. And they could decide against it again this year.

The thinking is that if the Bears do away with their grass field, it would be problematical to go back to it. So they have to ask themselves if it's wise to change their playing surface for the foreseeable future based on a coach who could be a one-year stopgap.

Dan Pompei


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Martz hire raises turf issue 

If Bears want to recreate St. Louis 'Show,' they need to replace Soldier Field's grass surface


February 2, 2010

When Mike Martz was in St. Louis, his offense was called "The Greatest Show on Turf."

If the Bears want to recreate the St. Louis experience, they need turf specifically an infill playing surface at Soldier Field.

The Bears and the Chicago Park District have been open to the idea of replacing Soldier Field's grass playing surface, and this could be the ideal time to make the change. It would cost about $1.5 million to make the switch to an infill surface, better known by the brand name FieldTurf, and in the long run it would be considerably cheaper than regular re-soddings.

In the past, however, the Bears have been resistant to playing on an artificial surface. And they could decide against it again this year.

The thinking is that if the Bears do away with their grass field, it would be problematical to go back to it. So they have to ask themselves if it's wise to change their playing surface for the foreseeable future based on a coach who could be a one-year stopgap.

Dan Pompei

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Grass, please.
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Yeah,,,,grass please..........a nickle bag will do.



Wrong "grass?"LOL!
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Dear Mike Martz:

Quit whining. You might be able to run on turf, but you can float on grass.

And trust me, Bear fans are more than ready for some floating.

Sincerely,
Your friends at Soldier Field
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