IronMan
  • IronMan
  • Veteran Member Topic Starter
15 years ago
Cheater.  

Does NOT belong in the HOF.
nathaniel
15 years ago
If he would have just admitted it a few years ago, he would have saved himself a lot of trouble. The dude has basically been in hiding since the Senate hearings, which as embarassing as they were I would have hid out for a while too. People seem to be more forgiving if you just admit it than go about it like he or Clemens have.

That homerun chase was unbelievable. I still look back on it with fond memories, but it's like watching a movie based on actual events. You know they added to the story to make it more interesting than it really was.
blank
IronMan
  • IronMan
  • Veteran Member Topic Starter
15 years ago

If he would have just admitted it a few years ago, he would have saved himself a lot of trouble. The dude has basically been in hiding since the Senate hearings, which as embarassing as they were I would have hid out for a while too. People seem to be more forgiving if you just admit it than go about it like he or Clemens have.

"nathaniel" wrote:



I don't care when he admitted to using. I still don't forgive him. He embarrassed the St. Louis Cardinals and stole money from me. I attended 6 games in 1998 thinking I was witnessing history, when I was in fact just witnessing a cheater.
nathaniel
15 years ago

If he would have just admitted it a few years ago, he would have saved himself a lot of trouble. The dude has basically been in hiding since the Senate hearings, which as embarassing as they were I would have hid out for a while too. People seem to be more forgiving if you just admit it than go about it like he or Clemens have.

"IronMan" wrote:



I don't care when he admitted to using. I still don't forgive him. He embarrassed the St. Louis Cardinals and stole money from me. I attended 6 games in 1998 thinking I was witnessing history, when I was in fact just witnessing a cheater.

"nathaniel" wrote:



Oh, no, I don't mean his slate would be wiped clean. You're absolutely right. He cheated, and it doesn't matter when the truth comes out. I just mean that the public seems to not necessarily forgive, but move on quicker when the truth comes out right away. Doesn't make it right, though.
blank
digsthepack
15 years ago
Shocking...just fucking SHOCKING!
State Motto: "Wisconsin, our serial murderers eat their kill!"
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
15 years ago
I am glad this is over. I was pssed when he was lieing about it but now I am willing to give him some slack.

Not The Hall. Not yet.

There are other players who used it and got away with it (So far).
There are those who used other drugs in the 80's (Not Steroids) and they are in The Hall. Where do we draw the line? Those who we are suspicious of? Those who we have proof of? Does that mean the liars like Bonds if they get away with it are allowed in The Hall?
It is tough to say.
UserPostedImage
IronMan
  • IronMan
  • Veteran Member Topic Starter
15 years ago

I am glad this is over. I was pssed when he was lieing about it but now I am willing to give him some slack.

Not The Hall. Not yet.

There are other players who used it and got away with it (So far).
There are those who used other drugs in the 80's (Not Steroids) and they are in The Hall. Where do we draw the line?

"wpr" wrote:


So if I cheat on a test and get caught, I should still get a passing grade because others may have been cheating as well?

Its real simple. If you are caught, or admit to using, you are banned from the HOF. That simple.
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
15 years ago

I am glad this is over. I was pssed when he was lieing about it but now I am willing to give him some slack.

Not The Hall. Not yet.

There are other players who used it and got away with it (So far).
There are those who used other drugs in the 80's (Not Steroids) and they are in The Hall. Where do we draw the line?

"IronMan" wrote:


So if I cheat on a test and get caught, I should still get a passing grade because others may have been cheating as well?

Its real simple. If you are caught, or admit to using, you are banned from the HOF. That simple.

"wpr" wrote:



Easy IM. I am not saying he is right or that he should not be kept out of the Hall. I am saying others who cheat and lie and get away with it are not being held as accountable as those who cheat and then admit to it. And that doesn't seem right. I wish we could catch them all.

I think the HR record should be set back to 61*.
UserPostedImage
IronMan
  • IronMan
  • Veteran Member Topic Starter
15 years ago

I am glad this is over. I was pssed when he was lieing about it but now I am willing to give him some slack.

Not The Hall. Not yet.

There are other players who used it and got away with it (So far).
There are those who used other drugs in the 80's (Not Steroids) and they are in The Hall. Where do we draw the line?

"wpr" wrote:


So if I cheat on a test and get caught, I should still get a passing grade because others may have been cheating as well?

Its real simple. If you are caught, or admit to using, you are banned from the HOF. That simple.

"IronMan" wrote:



Easy IM. I am not saying he is right or that he should not be kept out of the Hall. I am saying others who cheat and lie and get away with it are not being held as accountable as those who cheat and then admit to it. And that doesn't seem right. I wish we could catch them all.

I think the HR record should be set back to 61*.

"wpr" wrote:


If you cheat, and are caught, you should pay the consequences. It doesn't matter what someone else may have gotten away with.
4PackGirl
15 years ago
agreed, im. i know i was blind about sosa - never even dawned on me that the dude was HUGE & that really doesn't happen quite that way without some druggy drugs. oh well - no HOF for him, imo.
Fan Shout
beast (57m) : Great point Martha
beast (57m) : Buddy Ryan used to say if a candy bar goes missing, there are two to blame, Rex and Rob 🤪 jk 😁
Martha Careful (3h) : Bum Phillips used to say there are two ways to get better. Get better players or get players to play better. We have a new DL coach
Zero2Cool (3h) : Yes. Look at the losses last year. They can win.
beast (4h) : Can Packers win with their current DL?
bboystyle (5h) : waiting for a pass rusher.
dfosterf (8h) : 5 minutes between picks in the 3rd
dfosterf (8h) : 3rd. Hate this phone
dfosterf (8h) : 4rd
dfosterf (8h) : 5 minutes in the 4
dfosterf (8h) : 7 minutes between picks in the 2nd round
Martha Careful (8h) : Sorry to bitch, but the headline writers in that section absolutely mislead, or don't know how to read. It is maddening
Martha Careful (8h) : No thanks. Not a dependable guy to be in the right place and run the right route. Dumb as a box of rocks.
Zero2Cool (9h) : Losing 2nd round pick for a one year rental, not ideal. Especially a headcase.
TheKanataThrilla (9h) : Pickens for Jaire may be interesting. Definitely not sure we want Pickens long term.
dfosterf (9h) : No.Absolutely not
Zero2Cool (9h) : NO NO NO NO NO NO!!1 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
dhazer (9h) : scenario: Our main prospects are off the board when our pick comes around, do we just throw a 2nd round pick at Pittsburgh for Pickens
TheKanataThrilla (10h) : Hopefully she had some comfort that her son will be live his dream when she passed away. Sad news.
Mucky Tundra (11h) : Damn that sucks
Zero2Cool (11h) : News about Derrick Harmon mom, saddening.
Zero2Cool (12h) : Mark Murphy: "I predict we will trade up once and down twice."
beast (14h) : Rip the Packers and getting the fans yelling and booing him
beast (14h) : Super competitive Bears fan and WWE "superstar" wrestler, Seth Rollins is supposed to announce a Bears pick and absolutely rip Packers
packerfanoutwest (25-Apr) : Golden
beast (25-Apr) : I want DT Derrick Harmon, Oregon
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : And I can't be looking at my phone
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : Hey I'm at work lol
Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : btw, new site chat won't delete auto like
Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : because everyone left like wimps
TheKanataThrilla (24-Apr) : I am wondering if there is some type of autoclear when there isn't activity after a certain amount of time.
Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : What happened in the chat? Me and Zero posted a few things earlier and they're all gone
dfosterf (24-Apr) : 10-15 min bs plus flyover
dfosterf (24-Apr) : Yes
Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : 7pm is when this kicks off????
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : I told him. IT'S VONTE MACK , no matter what!
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : He asked me who I thought The Browns were taking.
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : 2. Would of had to wear Browns gear all week. NOPE I'll watch from my living room.
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : He wanted to know if I would go. 2 things, would have had to fly from Detroit to Green Bay. Nope
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : All expense paid trip to the draft. He will be in the Browns section. I told him to say hi to J-10VE for me 😃😃i
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : For a call from my nephew, he won an sllexp
TheKanataThrilla (24-Apr) : Hope to see everyone in the Chat tonight!!! Go Pack Go!!!
TheKanataThrilla (24-Apr) : Jeanty would be a great pick-up for the Bears. I see Warren mocked to them as well who I think would be a great selection.
Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : GameDay Chat is open. Posting bits an tids in there.
Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : Excellent Source: The Bears have a deal in place to move up to 5 if Jeanty is there.
Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : Probably not until 10pm will be making pick
dfosterf (24-Apr) : But it is still not tonight. Lol
wpr (24-Apr) : Today is finally here.
dfosterf (24-Apr) : I should have put it in quotes
dfosterf (24-Apr) : It is the title of a you tube video.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
59m / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

24-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

24-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

24-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

24-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

22-Apr / Random Babble / Martha Careful

22-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.