Zero2Cool
15 years ago
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The Pittsburgh Steelers' thrilling win over the Green Bay Packers ended with Ben Roethlisberger hitting Mike Wallace in the end zone as time expired.

That play will be shown on all the highlight shows, and when you watch those highlights (or watch the video here), you'll notice that the Packers only had three players rushing Roethlisberger, and they dropped eight players into coverage. And yet Packers defensive back Josh Bell was the only Green Bay player within 15 yards of Wallace.

So what was going on with the Packers' coverage? During halftime of the Vikings-Panthers game, NBC's Tony Dungy said that's what he wanted to know.

"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Dungy said.

That's something a lot of people in Green Bay are wondering right now.


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musccy
15 years ago
I thought the same thing...the whole point of dropping 8 is to give bell/bush help...

BUT

What difference would double coverage have made on that play? Bell covered wallace about as well as you can ask for. He just made a great play on a perfectly placed ball by Roethlisberger.
Greg C.
15 years ago
Bizarre. That's not what I've come to expect from a Dom Capers defense.
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Porforis
15 years ago

I thought the same thing...the whole point of dropping 8 is to give bell/bush help...

BUT

What difference would double coverage have made on that play? Bell covered wallace about as well as you can ask for. He just made a great play on a perfectly placed ball by Roethlisberger.

"musccy" wrote:



With double coverage someone might have been able to issue a hard hit, or get in front of the ball, or tip it, or do something.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
with eight in secondary ... have 2 deep 2 mid deep and the last two taking each side of the field.


easy peezy.
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Greg C.
15 years ago

with eight in secondary ... have 2 deep 2 mid deep and the last two taking each side of the field.


easy peezy.

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That only adds up to six, and you've already got it pretty much covered.

Unfortunately, the Packers went with the 7-1 coverage scheme: seven guys on one side of the field, and one guy on the other side. It would've worked great if Roethlisberger had thrown to the side with the seven guys.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

with eight in secondary ... have 2 deep 2 mid deep and the last two taking each side of the field.


easy peezy.

"Greg C." wrote:



That only adds up to six, and you've already got it pretty much covered.

Unfortunately, the Packers went with the 7-1 coverage scheme: seven guys on one side of the field, and one guy on the other side. It would've worked great if Roethlisberger had thrown to the side with the seven guys.

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I meant with the last four, split two on each side. I had it in there but figured someone would think I thought we had 10 back there. I failed on fixing my fail.
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wpr
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15 years ago

I thought the same thing...the whole point of dropping 8 is to give bell/bush help...

BUT

What difference would double coverage have made on that play? Bell covered wallace about as well as you can ask for. He just made a great play on a perfectly placed ball by Roethlisberger.

"Porforis" wrote:



With double coverage someone might have been able to issue a hard hit, or get in front of the ball, or tip it, or do something.

"musccy" wrote:



Better still if there had been two or three defenders he might not have thrown the ball over there. He threw it because it was only one on one coverage.
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porky88
15 years ago
Capers probably felt that had he blitzed, Pittsburgh would've thrown the ball up for grabs and the risk of a PI call was probably as high as getting beat one on one. The refs did call a lot of penalties in this game and quite a few on that last drive. There were some bad calls both ways. I didn't think it was a great game by the refs, so I think that factored into that call. Of course, Capers will never admit that. He'll say he had confidence in his guys, but McCarthy says the same thing about Mason Crosby and we all know it's bs.
RaiderPride
15 years ago
Capers is a huge reason the Packers are sitting in the playoffs at his moment.

Perhaps someone blew an assignment on the field.

As a former coach... Dungy should recognize that, and mention that as a possibility.

I am hoping Rockmolder will break this play down in one of his brilliant works of art.
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